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Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 04:22:21


CouchCoach
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Hello Fizzer, I would like to first off like to start this by saying I have the utmost respect for you as a person and the community you have created here on Warlight/Warzone. However a few bad apples spoil the orchard and the harvest. The Bad Apple being a player by the name of Sun God, for weeks upon months now he has being playing Diplomacy Games with myself, and my clan (The Circle). Simply put, we do not like Sun God and Sun God doesn't like us as we're rivals against each other and constantly antagonize each other, which is well and fine, but when the extends to the chatroom and enters reports towards me and my teammates, friends, and clan mates I start to get my jimmies in a rustle. Reinhardt has recently been temp. banned due to his Nazi Roleplay I assume, which is his problem and I will not defend him for it is your rules and you are allowed to do as you see fit. I simply wish for you to talk to Sun God or stop the constant threats and reports he is making against us. His actions are creating what I believe and other people strongly think is an unsafe community where reports are constantly sent and fear is created. While this system is important and Thank You for banning issues (Death Threats, Severe Racism, Child Pornography, etc). We here at The Circle simply want to not be reported 24/7 for not going along with Sun God and his constant Shenanigans, Public Enemy Occurrences, and Reports. In Exchange I will ask my fellow teammates to either lay off of him, and or be kinder, as compassion can do wonders. So I speak not as angry or frustrated, I just speak as someone who wishes to enjoy a nice game and a nice time. I also put this in the forum instead as a PM as I do wish to know if other people in the community have complaints against Us, Sun God, or the Reporting System.
-Cheers and Good Nights/Days to everyone here!
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 04:26:20


Potatoe
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Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 04:51:58


Dr. Stupid 
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1. Blacklist Sun God

2. Stop bothering Fizzer

3. Stop bothering us.

See? Is Simple!
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 04:57:17


Major General Smedley Butler
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He could still report them all the time and harass them in games they haven't made.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 05:04:03


CouchCoach
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Exactly @Tupac, @Dr.Stupid It's not even the majority of the comments he makes, and doing that would simply be plugging my ears and saying La La La as he reports more and more people, I don't think it's considered bothering if you have a comment to make with reasonable points. And If you don't want to see read this, a wise proverb goes "Don't Read if you Don't Care" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 06:22:02

Martin
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I'm sure fizzer is a sensible enough chap to spot the difference between a serious report and constant frivolous reporting. If you ignore this person, he will stop. If you post things like this, he is getting under your skin which is probably what he wants.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 07:23:37


Genghis 
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This is something that is unfortunately bound to happen with this reporting system. It can't be avoided. However, things will get sorted out naturally.

As dr. Stupid said, don't antagonize the forums with something that could have been a private mail. We have enough Forum clutter as is.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 07:31:28


Kain
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If you have idiot in your clan that glorifies Hitler/Nazism (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4330599916), then in my opinion SunGod is doing great job. From now on I'll start reporting your clan/teammates as well untill you remove reinhartshit from your clan or talk him to change his nazi-style profile.



Great Job "Sun God" nazi scum deserve to be treated like that

Edited 6/28/2015 07:33:40
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 07:52:35


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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... Sun God has prove himself to be a massive troll. Also you can't punish the entire clan just because one person believes something. Furthermore, you can't regulate what ideas people have. That is insanity, or more commonly known as communism.

Don't you see? By limiting the natzi's right to freedom of expression is exactly what they want to happen because then when they get in power they can limit your freedom of expression.

I can already tell that you, Kain, are one of those single issue voters that only take one fact into consideration before making a decision. I wouldn't be surprised if you acted on impulse and whatever felt good to say at that moment more than you took a step back and analyzed the big picture. All Natzi's are not bad. Its just their ideas that are horrible. There is a distinction between a person and their ideas.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 07:57:44


Chembaka 
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Reporting someone because they respect a person for the good they did in bringing a war torn and devastated country to one of the top powers in the world is even shittier than what Sun God is doing. And to judge someone and label them an idiot for what they believe just makes you the idiot. Yeah, Hitler did a shit ton of bad shit, but he also did a shit ton of good stuff as well. If you're gonna be so one-sided on such topics and have to get butthurt so much that you have to go about reporting him and us for being his friend, then you sir have no real place on these forums, let alone the internet.

Also, every time we've reported Sun God for how he reports us we've been ignored. Sun God has threatened several times that he'll report as a means to attack just to target us.

Edited 6/28/2015 08:03:54
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 08:03:56


Kain
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@Rogue Nikolai - if see that you are typical, not too smart amnerican boy that lacks proper education and dont know what comminism is. You shuldnt write suchh idiotic comments because they are so childish that barelly deserve any comment... (" Furthermore, you can't regulate what ideas people have. That is insanity, or more commonly known as communism")

"Don't you see? By limiting the natzi's right to freedom of expression is exactly what they want to happen because then when they get in power they can limit your freedom of expression" Yeah,we do exaxt things with murderers, rapist and terrorist etc.... We deprive them from their rights to protect society

"All Natzi's are not bad. Its just their ideas that are horrible" I am prety sure that mr Reinhardt is reffering to the nazis ideas

XD

Edited 6/28/2015 08:08:48
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 08:15:17


Genghis 
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Knowing reinhardt, i doubt that their is justification in this report or banning. He was probably just roleplaying.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 08:17:41


Chembaka 
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Kain is taking it as literal, which is stupid. This isn't about what rein has said or done, seeing as he's said nothing bad or done nothing wrong, This is about Sun God abusing the reporting system and getting someone temp banned because him and his friends were speaking in a way none of us get mad about.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 08:34:51


Kain
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Ok, Ok, I know that God Su is a troll and in fact I do dissaprove what he is doing. But I also dislike such nazimorons so I could not resist to write that.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 11:12:31


Tristan
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Bahh. Grow up people. The very existence of this topic is proof that Sun God is getting what he wants. As Dr. Stupid said, Blacklist him. You can't see his messages if you've blacklisted him so you can merrily ignore his existence. Tell me, Reinhardt aside, have any one of you been banned due to Sun God's constant reporting?

Martin is completely right. Fizzer's an intelligent enough person to tell the difference between a genuine report and a person who abuses the report system.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 15:15:27


Drackoe
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OP, your group is free to glorify whatever fascism you want. Sun God is free to report what he finds offensive. Fizzer can then take whatever action he deems acceptable. He owns this site. There is no "right" to free speech on Warlight. Only what Fizzer deems acceptable and conducive to a cohesive community. If he's decided to suspend your pal, then that's the end of it. Your best option is to blacklist and move on.

And Kain... easy on the American bashing, friend.

Edited 6/28/2015 15:17:15
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 16:47:19


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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No. He is right about Americans being idiotic retards. I leave here after all. I have no problem admitting that americans are stupid. They did elect George Bush and Barack Obama as presidents you know.

Have you read the Communist Manifesto? I have. It was a very eye opening experience. I realized just how insanely evil Communism is.

"You shuldnt[sic] write suchh[sic] idiotic comments because they are so childish that barelly[sic] deserve any[sic] comment"

Says the guy that misspells 'shouldn't', forgets the apostrophe, misspells 'suchh', misspells 'barelly', forgets a period and uses 'any' instead of 'a'. Your grammar is a horrendous catastrophe and we have spell check ffs. You just proved to everybody how incompetent you are in the very sentence that you challenged my intelligence. Way to go. I don't think I can top that amount of stupidity.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 17:14:59


Kain
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kid, I have no time for flame with you. Just to make things clear

1) I know that communist manifesto i "bad" thing. Still, you have postulated that depriving people of their ideas is communism which is not true. Of course, comunists did such things. But many other political systems have used that form of influencing societes, so you cannot write that "regulating what ideas people have = communism". Not to look too far - Nazis also regulated ideas of their people. So using your logic one could say that"regulating what ideas people have = fascism". So if "regulating what ideas people have = communism" and regulating what ideas people have = fascism" then "communism=fascism". This is obviouselly a folly, and you weare wrong.

2)If you werae at least a bit inteligent, you would have checked my nationality (as I did in your case). To make thing easier for you. I am not amierican, and eanglish is not my primary language. In fact I know 2 languages and sometimes I make a mistakes in my foregin lnnguages, but not in my primary. On the contray, I am prety sure that you dont know any foregin language aprart from eanglish so how can you think that you are more inteligent form somebody that knows 2? :) Additionally, I am not 100% sure but I think that you also made a mistake in yor phrase "That is insanity, or more commonly known as communism." SO if call sb uninteliigent beacause he is not 100% fluent in his foregin language (which is another quite idiotic idea of yours) then how would you call sb that makes mistakes in his primary langage? Retard?

(could sb write if "That is insanity, or more commonly known as communism." is written ok? I am very curious)



anyway, I wont continue that discusion couse it is way below standards

Edited 6/28/2015 17:18:53
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 17:41:38


Chembaka 
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We all speak "offensively" to one another. We know it and don't mind. Sun God also knows this. But he's taking what we do amongst ourselves and reporting us for how we speak to each other. If you're not one of us, then yeah, it does seem offensive. We're here to tell Fizzer that what we do offends none of us and we have nothing against one another. Sun God just wants to cause as much trouble as he can for us, and getting someone temp. banned because of what he said to one of us, people who do not mind, is wrong and unjust. You can ask anyone outside our clan just how vulgar and rude we are to one another. We do it out of fun, not hate. Unless Sun God gets repeatedly beat in the head everyday, then he can clearly see none of us takes it to heart. It's not him trying feeling hurt, it's him getting butt hurt over the times we've clashed with one another. He also continues to spam our mail and annoy us with comments like "OH YEAH!!! I'M GONNA GET YOU FVCKERS BANNED BY THE BIGGEST AND BADDEST CLANS SO THAT YOU GUYS DIE IN ALL GAMES!!!!" and so on and so forth. And. It. Never. Ends. We don't deserve to get in any form of "trouble" for something we don't do or say to one another with actual meaning.

Blacklisting him does absolutely nothing. He can still see our chat and just report us for what we say to one another.

Edited 6/28/2015 17:42:43
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 18:27:42


Hostile
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British Communism is insanity !

The communist party of Great Britain split with Russia (the Reds) to help form socialism (1950). They helped in the war effort during the Second World War. It developed differently.


The question now is who is Mikhail Bakouine ?

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I learnt about Bakouine from an auto-biography of Geoges Sand. She was present in many meetings and found it boring.

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It is very interesting when reading personal accounts of celebrities living all at the same time and having met each other. You can see what they think about each other. They have different views on some events.

Who wants to read Ivanhoe with me ? :)

Edited 6/28/2015 18:30:00
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 18:29:02


Drackoe
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Nikolai, you leave in the US?

Chembaka, if you contend that Sun God is harassing you, then by all means report him for doing just that. Don't drag this nonsense into a forum post.

Tbh, this:

"If you want to try anything against our clan, be warned that one of our members, Ninjafisher1980, is a ex-navy seal with over 300 confirmed kills and a network of friends and agents across the world just waiting to trace your IP and bring your whole world crashing down, so watch your step."

undermines my confidence in the validity of your assertions.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/28/2015 23:32:16


Oculus
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Ignoring all the pro-Nazi and anti-Nazi stuff because its besides the point:
We all have blacklisted Sun God, as far as I know. It doesn't stop him from reporting us or going into games where we are and reporting us. For people saying Fizzer can tell the difference between a frivolous report and a serious one: with all due respect for Fizzer, it can be hard to tell the context of a situation based on reports or the actions of one game. Hell, from where Fizzer is standing, it might look like Reinhardt is harassing Sun God, rather than the other way around. I can't tell what's going on in Fizzer's head and neither can you. That's why we're making a forum post to try and get some clarity.
Here is the facts of the situation: Sun God hates our clan and is constantly harassing it and the people in it. I personally don't have much of a problem with it because I stay out of open games and I have him blacklisted, so he can't really get at me. Other people in this clan, like Reinhardt, interact with him whether they like it or not and they can't avoid his constant reporting. I don't know how many times he's reported us but from what Sun God has said he's reported various members dozens of times. He threatens to sic big clans or their leaders on us, although I don't know what they would do. He spams chat with dozens of useless messages so that no one else can converse. There was a forum thread made 1 or 2 years ago, before he met us, just based on how annoying he was. I don't care if anyone takes action or not against Sun God: he has a right to do what he wants, no matter how much of a dick he is. That's not against the law or the rules of Warlight. I just want to make sure my clanmates aren't banned from frivolous reports again.

And Drackoe, that whole bio is a joke. If you can't tell that it's a joke, then I honestly don't know what to say to you.

Edited 6/28/2015 23:33:42
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 00:46:57


[Ag⁴⁷] Wolffe
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@Drackoe That is an Internet meme, which is made all the more hilarious when people like you take it seriously.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 01:44:59


Dr. Stupid 
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" It doesn't stop him from reporting us or going into games where we are and reporting us."

Is there a possibility that you have a spy in your group that is passing him game links? Because to think that he has some special ability to find your unique game links on his own guesswork strains credulity.

As for public games that he just happens to join with your clanmates in them, I would suggest your clanmates just refrain from objectionable chat from any point of context.

When it comes down to it, he's just trying to intimidate you and get in your heads....and...it's...working.

Simple as that: He's only winning because you think he's winning.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 02:44:04


Chembaka 
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"Hey guys, don't worry! Dr. Stupid has explained it all! Rein only thinks he's temp-banned. He's not actually temp-banned! The dumb nazi never realized it! Huehuehue, he had us fooled all along."

That's pretty much the result of what you've said. There is no win or lose in this. There is Sun God unjustly reporting someone and that person getting temp-banned. And living in fear of being reported by him whenever we talk about objectionable chat, regardless of whether he's taken part in it or not, would be giving him the "win". So why would we do that? Sun God should just learn to not be a nuisance and leave us be. We want nothing to do with him and would be pleased if we never interacted with me again. There is no pseudo battle going on here. Our friend is temp-banned because of Sun God. That is cold hard fact. I'm not even sure Sun God has the brain power to be intimidating.

Sometimes people decline games, and the host doesn't have anyone else on his mind to invite anymore. So the logical approach is to just make those slots open seats. Well guess who joins those open seats? And guess what else? You can't remove people who have already joined. You can also bet that whenever we ask him to leave because we don't want him with us because of problems, he begins his daily chanting of "IM GONNA REPORT YOU FVCKERS FOR HARASSMENT!!!1!1! IM GONNA GET THE BIGGEST AND BADDEST CLANS TO KILL YOU IN ALL GAMES!!!11!!!1" and so forth.

Sun God has proven himself time and time again to be a cancer to the people of WarLight. The thing that is Sun God has brought nothing but trouble and problems for me and my friends, and him being gone and us having nothing to do with him ever again would make us oh so very happy. Claiming that this is just a pseudo trick he's pulling to get into our heads does nothing but waste our time in having to constantly re-explain to you guys that it is an actual problem when people start getting banned because he doesn't know when to stop and go away.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 03:09:14


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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Wow. You just assumed that I only know one language because I only write in one language. That is true ignorance. You can't get much dumber than that. I, in fact, speak two languages and I can use Google translate for the rest.

I can understand if I met you on the street and you didn't speak English that well. That's ok. But we have FRICKING spell check here. If you misspell a word when you have spell check then you are a special kind of stupid and I simply am not able to bring you up to my level of intelligence.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 04:28:55


Drackoe
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Hey internet meme or not, your bio and membership is set to be confrontational (a Nazi RPing player?) and you're now reaping your just rewards. Enjoy yourselves.

Don't come crying because you like being jerks and can't handle the heat back. Who trolls the trolls? We now know the answer: Sun God.

Edited 6/29/2015 04:33:35
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 05:26:57


Dr. Stupid 
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Rein only thinks he's temp-banned.

Rein is banned because he behaved in an offensive manner. I think I might have covered that when I said:

I would suggest your clanmates just refrain from objectionable chat from any point of context.

Listen bud, if you don't get it by now, you're not going to get it. All you're doing at this point is giving the forums the impression that everyone in your clan is as clueless as you (which I highly doubt).

Step 1: Blacklist Sun God (you did it! hooray!)

Step 2: Stop bothering Fizzer (please?)

Step 3: Stop bothering us (Pretty, Pretty Please with a Cherry on Top?)
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 05:53:15


knyte 
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So here's where I think the issue lies: you can't agree on whether Sun God's report was frivolous.

The thing is, WL's rules are way more restrictive than most people seem to realize. Hell, I got a warning from the system for saying "fuck" in a game. So it looks like Sun God is just taking advantage of this discrepancy (to be a jerk, imo) and not making reports that are actually frivolous, as the system is well-set-up (for an indie game) to discourage and handle those.

I don't think there's anything you can do beyond just blacklisting Sun God like the rest of us.
Dear Fizzer:: 6/29/2015 05:56:07


Chembaka 
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Seriously, how many times have we had to say this? Blacklist stops us from seeing his chat. It does not stop him from seeing our chat. Sun God refuses to Blacklist us. So what do we do? Rein was unjustly banned. Anything that Rein may have said directly to Sun God at any time was after Rein had received a warning of how he had been unjustly reported by Sun God when Rein was talking with someone else in our clan, a clan that talks trash to one another all the time.

We've also been over this as well. Fizzer has been messaged, yet we don't hear anything. Do we just sit down and continue to get banned? No, we make ourselves noticed through the forums so then Fizzer will see and most likely do something about it.

No one asked you to speak, we would very much prefer if you were to leave. You click one the forum, you read the stuff, you responded. If you don't like it, sucks for you.

Rein behaved in no offensive manner what so ever. If we ever feel offended in any way, we have big boy pants, and can very well report Rein ourselves.

You clearly don't know how the blacklist works, so I would do a fact check on who is clueless. Like seriously, do we just get banned and do nothing about it? What we do and say amongst ourselves is a sign that we are so friendly that we can say such things to ourselves without getting butthurt about it. We don't have time or room for people like you or Sun God to come and butt in. Sun God knows we don't like him or want him around us, but he comes just to cause trouble. We're not just gonna sit around and do nothing when we're being attacked. If you find it okay for what Sun God is doing, then you have no place here.
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