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Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/7/2015 21:57:33


Seek and Destroy 
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8863214

Angelicporo and queen mom joined same day. play all their games together...same IP he claims they play in the same cofee shop

border eachother the entire game as one takes over the world.....even uses his armies from one to kill wastelands so the other can take territories, hold the entire west coast and both and 1 army on each territory.....sure seems like one guy controlling 2 players....

Can someone look into this

Edited 6/7/2015 22:08:26
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/7/2015 22:20:54

Hennns
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open the game>Click the player>Open Profile>Report (bottom of screen) and I promise someone will look into it. You should report both accounts btw.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 16:42:56


George Adgdgdgwngo
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How did you know they had the same IP Address? Just wondering..
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 16:51:12

HomeLess
Level 55
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how do you know they played all their game together? i thought you could only see common games between you and someone-else, but not common games between 2 people. and yeah how did you know their IPs?
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 16:59:42


Genghis 
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It would be funny if all 3 of these people were the same person : he made up a fake alt case.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 17:05:42


Seek and Destroy 
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I verified their IPs with some personal information I have on this guy from playing with him on another site and he/they admitted to playing from the same Coffee shop with his "Relative" when I called him on the matching IP's, dates they joined,ect

As for them playing together they told me they regularly play together in almost all their games in our discussions.

If you look at the history its pretty clear what happened with the 2 accounts.

I blocked both accounts now so its not a big deal, but its something to watch especially if they are playin for coins

Edited 6/8/2015 17:11:23
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 18:13:52

DanWL 
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It could be the same person, but using a the same computer, but using a different browser. Or they're using the same device and logging in and out very fast.

They would be violating rules, if they played coin games against each other...
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 18:45:01


Epicular
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Let's look at this here history.... angelicporo and queenmom hardly fought each other the entire game, up until the last few turns, where it became obvious their opposition had been entirely beat... so angelic began to destroy queen, while queen put up no fight then proceeded to surrender to end the game and render angelic the winner.



Yep, this be strange
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 18:55:35

M. Poireau
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Agreed. From the history it looks like a totally rigged game.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 22:56:21


Tiny Koala
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Is there any problem with playing as allies with your friends in FFA? Suppose I and a friend both play FFA, and agree orally to be allies in the game. Is this unfair in some way that agreeing via PM is not?

FWIW, I've only played team or 1v1 on this account, but I played FFA on Kongregate and certainly finding allies was necessary to win the games.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 23:14:38

MrHymen
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Is there any problem with playing as allies with your friends in FFA?


In this case, yes.
Private messaging was disabled. By playing as a team you automatically have an advantage on the map.

If PMs were allowed, I could go with what you said.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 23:25:26

M. Poireau
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If PMs are allowed, arguably secret alliances are possible.

However, there is a big difference between agreeing to temporary cooperation (or a temporary truce) and simply letting the other player win, as happened in this case.

You can "ally" with someone, but the game is no longer fun or strategically interesting if you are willing to lose the game to maintain the alliance. You must remember you are still fundamentally competitors in a game who are trying to conquer one another.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/8/2015 23:50:33

AngelicPoro
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Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 00:16:27


ps 
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even with PM disabled, warlight has global user messaging, users can always discuss alliances.

same IP does not necessarily mean same machine, it can be a shared connection to the internet.

that being said: FFA is FFA, people are free to ally in whatever way they chose and it's not uncommon for friends to help each other survive. i don't see what difference does it make if they are sitting next to each other or not.

same person playing 2 accounts, that i would considered to be an unfair advantage. or multiple accounts being used on team games to give one of them victory. but not on FFA imho.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 00:45:39

M. Poireau
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So you wouldn't have a problem with two players starting up lots and lots of 4-player FFAs, playing as allies in all of them, and "letting" each of them win every second game?

It's certainly not breaking any official game rules, but it isn't a game I have in interest in playing, either.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 03:41:08


Dublin Warrior 
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if they didn't do it in warlight, they could use Skype, or many other options.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 16:29:15


ChrisCMU 
Level 60
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I would have a problem with it (it would be super annoying), but it is not a violation of rules.

I don't play FFAs at all because that kind of stuff happens.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 16:33:17


ps 
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what chriscmu said.

the point is that 2 players could still gang up on you regardless. it's part of FFA's assumptions.

it's also why most "strategic" players don't play FFA. lots of other players still seem to enjoy the roleplaying drama it always entails though.

Edited 6/9/2015 16:37:22
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 16:50:33

M. Poireau
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That's too bad. FFAs can be incredibly strategically interesting and fun if you can find a group of people who don't pull that kind of crap.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 17:13:27


ChrisCMU 
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best bet is to set up open seat pre-reqs, or only play with known players. I just don't care for FFAs at all, but if you like them make sure to expect that type of behavior or limit your risk to it.
Something Fishy 2 players same IP: 6/9/2015 18:59:01


Epicular
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I agree that FFAs can always involve secret alliances, whether or not the two people know each other personally.

Simply allowing one player in the alliance to win really kills the fun, though, which is what happened here.
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