From the team that brought you the recent Real-Time CLOT, comes a new ladder. The new ladder is a multi-day ladder on the classic Medium Earth map, but this time there's a twist - the bonuses will have been randomly altered, similar to the template in Season IX (note: unlike in Season IX this ladder is using 0% SR luck).

We're still deliberating as to whether to use 0% SR as it currently is, or to switch it to 0% WR like the 1v1 ladder. If you have an opinion, please let us know :)

Check it out @ http://multi-day-ladder.appspot.com

If you find any bugs, have any suggestions or just found this cool, please drop comments our way on this thread :)
Master of the Dead, Ryiro, or I will respond as soon as possible

FAQ's:-

Q) What is all this about?

A) This is a custom ladder based on the Medium Earth template. It features randomized bonuses. Every game will have bonuses which are different by +1 or -1 or equal to their original values

Q) When will the ladder start? Who will I get to play with?

A)It has already. Games are allocated amongst players currently joined on the ladder. The ladder tries to pair similar players together.

Q) How many games can I play at once?

A) You can choose how many games you'd like to play at a time. You can play from 1-9 games at a time.

Q) How are players ranked?

A) Players are ranked on this ladder using the TrueSkill Ranking algorithm. This system awards points only at the end of a game and does not make any further updates based on future results. This is similar to the current RT ladder.

CREDITS:-
Again, thanks to Fizzer for all his work on Warlight and the inclusion of the CLOT framework for others to extend.

Other folks who helped with the beta version of the ladder and testing:

Arkanton
AWESOMEGUY
ChrisCMU
Doga
Dom365
Don [ Ω ]
Facetroll
Glamorous❤
Krzychu
Master Atom ◆Elite◆
master of desaster
TheWarlightMaster
The Turtle
tommy15
vicnus

This would not have been possible without you!! So THANK YOU.

For more detailed info about the ladder, check the link provided above

Edited 3/30/2015 12:28:55

I have tested the new feture with gnuff recently and I came to the conclusion that for the balance sake, I believe -1, 0 without +1 is the best solution. Having -1,0,+1 will make for some very awkward games.

Awkward games are TEH BEST!

nice job!

Your link has an extra http:// in it

SZE - so only a 1 value swing possible? What about if it was only 0 and +1 instead of -1 and 0? better to have less good spots than possibly boost some already good spots?

I will say this, with the current setup, I think you will have lots more intel than normal Strat ME

And thanks again for setting this CLOT up!

Edited 3/30/2015 15:33:12

Agree with szeweningen,

Also just +1 and -1 would work equally* well




*equal in the amount of "interest"

Edited 3/31/2015 01:00:26

not equal compared to the base income tho

Of course not.

They could also weight the probabilities. This could actually be really interesting. Like for example:


10% -2
20% -1
40% +0
20% +1
10% +2

I used to think that the skill in the ladder would be increased if the settings were less randomized. Now I believe the opposite, as if they are not randomized, there would have to be an optimal strategy that wins every time, this information could be spread person to person, and no skill is required.

tl:dr weighted probabilities could add an element of surprise and thus increase the amount of skill required in the ladder.

Edited 3/31/2015 01:10:50

They could also weight the probabilities. This could actually be really interesting.


I am not so sure it will work. We want to avoid a situation where there are only 3-4 optimal picking spots on a map.

For ex- Imagine West China bonus(7 territories) being (6+2 = 8) income and some of the others being reduced by 2. This would make the game very predictable. However, I would like to observe games over the coming week to see how many games had interesting boards and then decide.



I used to think that the skill in the ladder would be increased if the settings were less randomized. Now I believe the opposite, as if they are not randomized, there would have to be an optimal strategy that wins every time, this information could be spread person to person, and no skill is required.


Agree.. Random warlords does achieve this to a certain extent. Randomized bonuses take it to the next level!

Join the fun on that ladder! I promise it's great! ;)

The more people the merrier....

Something is wrong with creating games. Yesterday I set my limit to one game. I keep being invited to new games though. I got three of them today. Fix it please.

@timon, we've found the problem and fixed it. There shouldn't be any more problems with game allocation.

Great work guys! :D

Seems like we have a bug. I've turned off game allocation for today till we get a chance to figure it out.

Should resolve it soon.

What about if someone does not join a game? My game was started 5 days ago with timon:

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8383525

It is supposed to be setup such that players who do not join within 3 days forfeit the match. After 3 days it is auto deleted.

@Chris

i've disabled the cron job which does (update ratings, create new games, clean up old games).. i still haven't had a chance to fix the bug.

the game will be cleaned up and you will be awarded the win once I enable the cron job again.

please bear with me.. it's hard to work a lot on this on weekdays

No worries. I've done one myself and I know it takes some work. I just appreciate this is going as I loved that seasonal ladder.