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When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 09:08:44


Master Ryiro 
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we should bee allowed to make moves for them instead of AI
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 10:37:48

MrHymen
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I'd agree if Alts weren't a thing. Too much room for abuse as the game currently stands.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 10:41:00


[WOLF] Arrogance
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We can't assume every player is an alt...

How about in big games, when someone is booted, the game is back in the "Open Games" tab and replaces the player who is booted? I know this isn't ideal, but it could be a solution.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 10:46:44

MrHymen
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This is true, we can not assume that every player is an alt (and it would be stupid to assume that) but even a little bit of alt abuse would be enough in this case.

Something does need to be done though. Too many games have gone from near certain win to loss because the strongest player has been DCd/Powercut/I had to go to hospital or whatever the excuse is xD.

Before someone says it, yes AIs are an option but as we all know, they suck.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:07:38

OBI
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its just an idea ... maybe a total terrible one ... :)

If the team of the booted player gets his territories than they have an advantage ... thats no good solution ... so my idea ... if one player is booted the territories are lost ... and the opponent team has to make a decision which player of his team also has to leave the game ... so that this territories also are lost ... so there is no big difference in advantages between you and your opponent ...

the only thing ... its stupid for the player who has to leave the game although he played in time the whole game before

Edited 3/26/2015 11:08:59
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:17:22


Thomas 633
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if they still get points its not bad
but then you just boot your worst player which doesn't solve the problem
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:22:11


Master Ryiro 
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@OBI you got it wrong
no one gets the territories of the booted player
just the MOVES that AI makes should be replaced by the moves their teammates make
teammates will decide among themselves who gets to make moves for the booted player

also i don't know what the issue with alts is here,give me an example how an alt can misuse this system in a way which he couldn't without this system

@Wolf arrogance
thats not a solution,we have vote to end already if we want to and if someone gets booted while they're losing and the game stops is a a bad idea
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:24:13


Master Ryiro 
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@Thomas
the player who got booted can come back next turn so no teammate can misuse it

Edit:or at that turn itself since others will need to uncommit first to make your moves and it'll take some time

Edited 3/26/2015 11:25:57
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:26:13

OBI
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but i think its really okay if you boot your weakest teammember ... if you have to do that its not the fault of your team that a player of the opponents doesn't play

Okay, maybe its a small advantage ... but it is better than playing 2v1 or 3v2 etc. (thats a bigger advantage)
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:27:18


Thomas 633
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when teammates get booted
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:30:39

OBI
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what is the difference between you are doing his moves and getting his territories if a player never comes back? .... oh I see you can't deploy all armies in one of your territories

Edited 3/26/2015 11:34:17
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:33:08


Master Ryiro 
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its not gonna be 3 vs 2 or 2 vs 1 its still gonna stay 3 vs 3 and 2 vs 2
whether someone is weak or not is a matter of perspective,also you can still go by the old fashion way by asking your teammate to change orders in teamchat if you think they missed something or did something wrong
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:35:12


Master Ryiro 
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^^you got it now obi

Edited 3/26/2015 11:42:22
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 11:42:12

OBI
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yep okay ... you're right!
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 12:00:45


[WM] Gnuffone 
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yeah i agree with ryiro, would be interesting a setting that allow you to move for a booted player
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 12:12:45


Pooncrew 
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I think the AI system is fine, just make it possible for your teammate to come back.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 12:21:47


Judeburger 
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A more elegant solution might be to allow a player to edit their teammates moves. If they get booted to AI you will be able to edit freely, if they are still in the game maybe you need a permission box checked to allow editing. It would be nice if this allowed you to make moves for a teammate BEFORE they got booted, as an alternative to vacation or password-sharing.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 13:58:40


QueefBalls
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OBI I see where you're coming from but your system would penalize someone who has taken all of their turns in time, and that's not really fair.

Judeburger I like your suggestion, but it would have to be set up so that only one teammate could edit moves. Otherwise I feel like multiple people would just keep editing over and over if they didn't agree with the choices made by another teammate.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 15:05:56


Punching Bag (^_^;)
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^ what if the chance to edit the ai's moves was given to each of the other teammates each turn?

right now the default is not always to make it so a teammate can come back if booted, poon, and there is not much you can do currently if a teammate gets booted and the ai makes some moves for them.

if this gets implemented i can see some people deliberately booting teammates if they refuse to listen to more experienced players :P
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 15:35:58


Judeburger 
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I fail to see the problem with that, Punching Bag. if my teammate is making dumb moves, won't listen to my suggestions, and becomes bootable I'd boot them just for spite and then surrender.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 15:44:47


Punching Bag (^_^;)
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never said that would be a problem. the ones who tend to not listen also tend to be jerks and are far more likely to walk away from a game xD
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 15:46:26


ChrisCMU 
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Agree %100 we need this feature
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 16:10:38


Windows 10
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I agree as well. There are too many games where your team is clearly winning, then the guy with 200 income gets booted, and you lose. I think this system also will only work if boot to AI is enabled, otherwise it doesn't really make sense (since what happens if the controlling player doesn't move for the booted player in time, and the booted player gets booted a second time). For AI this is not a problem since the AI would just get its moves executed.

Taking over for teammates would also be an interesting option for games like 1 + AI vs. 1 + AI, which basically becomes a 2 v 2 alt battle, except you don't need alts. Definitely, the option should not be allowed without explicit permission for taking over accounts controlled by another person.
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 17:18:57


Master Ryiro 
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it should be as such in the settings itself
like we have move order random/cyclic/no-luck cyclic
the same way we should have booted player gets eliminated/becomes AI/allies take control

all allies should be allowed to make moves for the booted teammate but whoever commits first will only be considered,and others will be notified that someone else commited first,kinda like card system
(eg:-someone else took the re-enforcement card before you)
if you have good teammates you can co-operate and find a good way out

if you boot your ally because he/she's not listening,note that if they were not listening then they would have commited already in the first place
the fact that they've not commited tells you that they're not entirely against you
if you still want to boot them,then i guess you're prepared to face the consequences
i don't think anyone would do that on purpose
and since allies can come back after getting booted,its not so much of an issue

time control is still an issue though
i think there should be added time for the turn the player gets booted for his/her allies to commit for them(just for 1 turn) and then the game will continue with the same boot time
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 19:59:13


Glam 'd Slam Islam
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This should occur mostly in the ladders, it is very frustrating when your teammate gets booted in a competitive game, a fine example of this:

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8018442

❤ RCY :P
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 20:26:26


The Lord
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haha nice chat
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 20:41:43


Jefferspin 
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That really was a fun chat. Especially since Ineff can read the chats if he wants but still makes then go back and forth.

Edited 3/26/2015 20:42:58
When teammates get booted: 3/26/2015 21:05:58


Master Ryiro 
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we almost had the 1st position there
When teammates get booted: 3/27/2015 03:58:27


Punching Bag (^_^;)
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sometimes they move fast ryiro, sometimes they don't, and sometimes they walk away, that being the most annoying case. (I hope you did not think i boot because they don't listen)

why only the turn they are booted that there is additional time? don't you have one player doing the moves for at least 2 players each turn? if more than one teammate is booted then they may need even more time

(I am only mentioning stuff I am not totally agreeing with :P )
When teammates get booted: 3/27/2015 04:02:08


mayoo
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I do agree with Ryiro, this is one of these things where it can severely frustrate players when anyone on the team gets booted. I have had many experiences where a team mate has essentially walked out due to either disliking another team mate or because they have to leave. It often happens especially with quick booters who will take any opportunity to kick an opponent. Ryiro's suggestion is actually quite a good solution to that problem. Also, I think that I would extend Ryiro's suggestion a bit. I would also add that a player who is booted can keep making their move but that must happen BEFORE the rest of the team would decide the player's move. This would give the person who got kicked a chance to continue playing in the case of either a difficult situation or maybe a short call that would result in the player being away for a while.

Obi, in my opinion, for your suggestion, the player who gain's the booted players territories should be voted on by the team with the booted player, Higher win rate will break ties.

Also, I seriously disagree with Pooncrew's suggestion as there has been a lot of proof that the AI are not very good players and often ruin the game.

Edited 3/27/2015 04:03:19
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