what's the best long term idle strategy
ive already heard of saving IM and SL powers for SAsc levels
and focusing on artifacts rather than AP

what else

Edited 3/16/2023 06:09:23

and focusing on artifacts rather than AP

Instead of that, I would say that a balance between the two is good. Though perhaps that's because I use a different strategy from most other people who SAsc a lot. (I have never played Hex Earth, while others seem to mainly rely on Hex Earth for AP)

Get decent artis(and the ability to keep them), to the point where you can play any level in a reasonable amount of time, do a lot of 25% AP SAsc to get SAscs faster, do a lot of faster digging SAsc, so that you can get a leg arti during 1 SAsc, get more arti slots when needed and start grinding ins artis, then more 25% APs so you can SAsc daily, then get a +100AP SAsc every day for ~3 years and beat the game.

Somewhat to competing theories, build artifacts to get a faster start at the beginning or focus on +25 APs to reduce the time overall time. For me, it comes down to play style and those long levels at the begin make me want to focus on artifacts.

It's definitely all about the artifacts, b/c that's all you take with you when you SAsc

Don't focus on upgrading Advancements beyond what's necessary to get to P4 100k, b/c it all goes away, and the more you SAsc, the quicker you re-SAsc, the quicker you re-lose everything but artis

Getting your choice artis to Insane is the goal, everything else is transient, so everything you do should be aligned to that goal

So you're saying buying 20ish spring bundles is the best strategy?

I have to clarify, this strategy SHOULD NOT involve buying stuff with IRL money. Coins are fine.

So you're saying buying 20ish spring bundles is the best strategy?

Why wait for the spring bundle? Just buy tons** of Legendary artifacts and upgrade upgrade upgrade your ass off.

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ensure that you don't buy more Legendaries than 5*x, where x=# of artifact slots you can carry over; otherwise you will be buying & crafting Insanes that you will throw away @ time of next SAsc

theoretically yes. but realistically who can afford it

also whats the sasc upgrade plan?

Having good artifacts when you first SA matters. It's worth observing that the top 5 people onthe leaderboard all SA-ed with at least one Insane. The specific choice of artifact at Insane seem to matter less.

I think 1 Leg +1 Epic is about the minimum you could have by the time you can SA, but most people who have SA-ed at that level have then stalled or given up, so if you are even vaguely close having the next step up, then wait and keep digging.

Thanks, but I meant what to pick in future SAscs.

The goal is to get all the artifacts you think are important to Insane sure.

Maybe a goal of 1380 +100 APs if your Krinid or are you working on every artifact at insane?

SSac resets BPs and copper creek so can earn a Leg and 3 epics every time.

If you can get refresh time down enough that should be better than digging.

In the long run you will likely want to pick up +25 AP and more artifacts slots to help to do so.

The decision is do just keep yourself locked in to two artifacts and focus on +25 AP at start for several SSacs or do you get artifact slots first to start with your key artifacts.

The time saving is very clear on +25 AP but it does have diminishing returns.

Artifact slots are much more subjective.

Depending on how much of an idle player vs active player likely has a big influence here.

I am very active and find pre t4 boring so I went artifacts.

My first SSAC was 3 Legs my second was 1 Insane and 3 epics.

Since I am building up those epics I will likely go +25 AP on my next SSAC.

where is the third epic? I know of battle epic, c cubed epic where is the third epic where

I'm an idle player sometimes and active sometimes so... what artifacts are best for both styles and stuff

Just to be clear because some people don't read properly, I mean what are the best artifacts for active, best for idle, and best for sometimes active sometimes idle

Edited 4/4/2023 07:34:52

You can get one epic for Hard Cooper Creek, a second from being first in a WZIB, and the third from 25600 battle points in WZIB. The Legendary is 120k battle points. Also 2 rares, uncommon and a common are at varies points.

The best answer for that is to go the Super leader board and look at what Ivan and Math are updating.

AV is the best artifact.

TW,SSAC and best actives beyond those IM, TS, QS and maybe others.

AcacheB, HB, AcampB to a lesser degree BMB, TMB, CB, MB, DB,MD maybe others.

Does the artifact help you get to the first market place? SSAC, AcampB, BMB, TMB, DB, MB

Does the artifact help with the money you need to upgrade Hospitals and buy Mercs. AV, MD, IM

Does the artifact help get the extra armies you need beyond what you get from Mercs. AcacheB, CB, HB, TS, QS

Does it save time, TW, IB until you get the APs.

At difference phases of progress and the game what do I have equiped if I have a full set of artifacts...

Pre 4th slot. ACampB, usually SSAC and TW on cooldown, HB when conquering switch AcacheB for Army Caches.

Pre Auto Draft, AcampB, one of BMB, MB, or TMB, later in the game I guess it would be MB again two slots with SSAC and TW cooldown. Conquering will now be AcacheB and HB.

Post Multilevel stop using SSAC so TW is in 4th slot. BMB early MB later game. AcampB and DB are entire game unless conquering which will be AcacheB, HB, and CB.

On a few levels I might use MB, RB like Hard China, or USA.

Honestly, since I will be focused on upgrading the six key artifacts AV SSAC TW AcacheB AcampB and HB I am unlikely to have a rare or higher of the others...

Edited 4/4/2023 11:59:25

didn't know 1st in battle would give that
also, wasn't it 128k?

Edited 4/4/2023 11:54:45

Leg from WZIB is 102.4k BP(2^10*100)

that still isn't 120k. but ok thanks that makes more sense

For me, it just a huge number that is more about achieving rather than the artifact so it never sticks in my head.

Making Insanes before your first SAsc will slow you down in the long term, skipping them will do it gradually, but the AP increase makes up for it.