When it comes to your artifacts I guess that will depend on your exact digging progress. If you want to choose anything but the additional artifact when you have more than two legendaries, than this would mean to lose weeks/months worth of digging. Then it could be better to wait until you can consolidate all your artifacts into an insane one. The same holds true if you want to choose the additional artifact and have more than three legendaries. Given that superascensions are more or less only about artifacts, losing legendaries isn't really the way to go

Making Insanes before your first SAsc will slow you down in the long term, skipping them will do it gradually, but the AP increase makes up for it.

Depends on what your current artifacts are; if you currently have 4 Leg artis, then you absolutely want to build that Insane before SAsc, else your chucking 2 Leg

If you have 4 Epics, then just get 1 more and build the Leg and maybe SAsc away

Or just keep on digging while you're in late Phase 4, get 1-2 Insanes while you're digging is 50% sped up

It all comes down to how crushed you are going to feel post SAsc, effectively restarting the game with +25% AP buff, no Adv's & 2 artis; having some Insanes will speed it up a fair bit, and not having them means it's super slow again

If you're okay with super slow, then go for it

But some people just couldn't be bothered actually essentially going back to the start with no significant buffs, and quit the game - in which case you would have been better off continuing in phase 4 until you get to a point where you won't be turned off the game post SAsc

I don't mind a restart of the game. If im slow, im slow. It's still probably gonna be better than those ridiculous 14 day hosp strat strategy I did. and I would like to fix all my mistakes lol
So my target would be 2 Leg probably, considering im about to ascend and have the equivalent of roughly 1 Leg

Or is 50% sped up good enough that I want a 3 Leg (and picking +1 arti instead of 25% AP)

Depends on what your current artifacts are; if you currently have 4 Leg artis, then you absolutely want to build that Insane before SAsc, else your chucking 2 Leg

Been there done that :)

me wsiting several years for the answer be like

The time you have most of the good stuff from tier 4 it is really cool. I would follow Krinid's advice and just work on getting say all the APs or just dig out several levels at once.

I personally like to have 3 levels going and always have a 80 uncommon dig site to start when one stopped.

For me, the sweet spot is tier 4 and it is a really long way from the start of an Super till you get back there.

Doing it will two Legendaries is a sure way to burn out.

Dig until you don't want to do WZIB any more and you have no more APs to try out.

If you can make 3 Insanes in that time your Super will be much better than trying with 2 Legandaries.

Fyi, the requirements for the 1 IM Hex clear:

Advancements:
- 25% Joint Strike
- 100% Increased Money Cache
- 65% Additional Mercenaries
- 5% Auto-Conquer (you can skip this and go with less AP, but hello carpal tunnel)
- 50% Mercenary Discount
- 100% Increased Alloy Sell Values

Artifacts:
- Insane Cache Boost (25%)
- Insane Money Cache Boost (128%)
- Insane Army Cache Boost (64%)
- Insane Mercenary Discount (64%)
- Insane Alloy Values (224%)
- **Insane Inspire Mercenaries

** = or just use 1 IM power

With lesser requirements, there is a 2 IM Hex clear, then the 3 & 4 IM Hex clear methods as well

Edited 5/14/2023 20:19:34

so I should get 3 insane in that phase 4 time? @mindori this contradicts geofrces advice

Edited 5/13/2023 08:54:22

Depending on how much of a completist you are might do it. If you make the determination to 2 epics and a leg from BPs you will be able to get at least one insane...

How long did it take you to be ready to Super the first time? How much of that was learning the game and how much of that was just the time it takes?

When you are will likely have two legs worth of artifacts but maybe more.

With HC bonus, Dig speed APs and Auto Dig 80 hours equals a rare equivalent, 400 hours is a epic equivalent, 2000 hours is a legendary equivalent and 10,000 hours is Insane equivalent. So yes, spending a year to get an Insane would slow you down unless you were enjoying the ride.

If you haven't gotten an epic from BP and / or you are over 3 legendary it will likely be worth your time to get the Insane.

For me it is fun to be at full power and not so much in the long progress to get to tier 4. Spending a month digging is way easier and more enjoyable that bogging thru those first ten levels and than building up +Mercs AP.

Long term after 10 to 20 or so Supers you will have enough rewards and artifacts to make it fast whatever way you go and long term an epic from HCC a week will be faster than digging it just how do you get there.

pkmx said sasc with 2 to 3 legs, unless you have 4+ legs then wait for insane (as someone else mentioned don't throw legionaries away)