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Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/6/2022 08:36:18


Garlikid D. Ven 
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Ok, thanks for explanations. I still believe more players would be inclined to stall 15 free days than vacations they would need for any life reason but well, every solution has its pros and cons, can give you that

Then if keeping this system, wouldn't it be nice for instance to ask if Fizzer could add a tool giving the entire time a player spends taking their turns in a game (if I'm not wrong we only see average time and not full time atm), tool that could allow a rule such as "if a player exceeds X days to take their turns in a game, it'd be considered as a loss to their team" ? Again this would have pros and cons, just suggesting an idea
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/7/2022 00:13:56


Beren Erchamion 
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Regardless of the time it takes overall, having banked time makes playing 3v3 games much less stressful. When you have to coordinate with two other people once every 3 days regardless of what is going on in your life, it can get overwhelming. This leads to players taking vacations because they can’t get things sorted out in time, which inevitably becomes a ten day vacation, which stalls every game that player in overall.
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/7/2022 22:35:58


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+1 for Beren's statement.
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/10/2022 00:01:45


Master Cowboy 
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Whenever I instituted the rule in CL12, I figured it would have some growing pains since it was such a big move away from a staple WZ feature.

That being said, I have seen no downside to it with the exception that some players can't play CL. (Very few)

It has decreased the length of the league substantially, gave extra time in games allowing for more flexible schedules and less stress (See beren's post), and has seen the amount of overall in game boots decrease. If the next CL leader were to set out to undo everything I instituted in CL12, the one thing I would want kept is banked time over vacations, it's literally the best decision I made as a leader.

Regarding limiting vacations instead, I had originally thought we'd have that implemented in a couple CLs, but could not at the time due to the amount of work implementing them on top of having to already redesign the league from scratch. That being said, banked time proved to be the correct move and vacation limits were scrapped.
As far as stalling, you can only stall the game 15 more days past the last game allocation. Theoretically if both teams worked together in a 3v3 could stall a game for up to 90 days, but that is very unlikely. It is still only 20 more days than a max vacation by a single player, and someone could stall the league much longer via coordinated effort via vacations (example : one team alone could stall a game by up 210 days). And this would have to be done with malintent anyways.

As far as league length. Here is some data.

CL14 > 5 months
CL13 > 5 months
CL12 > 5 months
CL11 > 10 months
CL10 > 7 months
CL9 > 11 months
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/10/2022 09:04:06


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good move mr cowboy 5 months are great ! also you didn’t say that in CL 12 Lu Fredd started is run … important thing to say for sure
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/11/2022 15:42:05


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Update 02/11/2022:

Hello and welcome to the first update of Division A in the 15th release of the one and only Clan League. It is the division in which FCC is going to try the best to defend their title, Python and ONE! fight to climb higher on the podium than the season before, Masters are looking for new challenges after CW, HAWKS want to survive another season, WG tries to find to old strength and LuFredd to show where they belong. The first 2 games have finished and so it time. Masters start with 2 wins in CL 15. The first victory is on 3v3META and was caused by a no-join by WG. The 2nd victory and the 1st regular win was brought in on 2v2MME against HAWKS. With this Masters start with a 9 point lead and set the first exlamation mark !. HAWKS and WG start with a defeat. But it is good that the season is still early :)


Finished games this week:

CL15: 3v3 Middle Earth in the Third Age

Motoki, Marcus Aurelius, Timinator • apex defeated [WG] Reza, ChrisCMU, Super Smoove - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29771808


CL15: 2v2 Strategic MME

Forsaken, Rufus defeated BusDriver, The Infinite Rick - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29681227


Full list of finished games:

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/595291-clan-league-15-division-official-thread?Offset=2


Horserace:

1.  Masters  -  2W -  0L -   9/  9 pts, 240 MP, 100.0% PC, 100.0% GW
2.  FCC      -  0W -  0L -   0/  0 pts, 240 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW
3.  ONE!     -  0W -  0L -   0/  0 pts, 240 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW
4.  HAWKS    -  0W -  1L -   0/  4 pts, 236 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW
5.  Python   -  0W -  0L -   0/  0 pts, 240 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW
6.  Lu Fredd -  0W -  0L -   0/  0 pts, 240 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW
7.  [WG]     -  0W -  1L -   0/  5 pts, 235 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW

% of games finished: 0.9
% of points finished: 1.1



Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/16/2022 15:39:18


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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the bot is still down


Update: Bot is back!

Edited 2/16/2022 18:46:32
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/19/2022 18:21:34


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Python makes a sub:

Template: MME 2v2
Player out: Platinum
Player in: Dom365

Python makes a sub:

Template: Biomes 2v2
Player out: Platinum
Player in: Schwarz

Edited 2/19/2022 18:21:43
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/19/2022 18:55:53


Rheumakay
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ONE! makes a sub:

Template: META 3v3
Player out: Nave
Player in: Neal
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/19/2022 21:48:00


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Update 02/18/2022:

In the last 7 days also the last remaining templates have started into Clan League 15. As last one started Great Lakes yesterday. But not only the last templates started into the league. Also the League got a little more speed. In total 6 games have finsihed. Masters keep going their way. As in the first week they also count in 2 games as their wins without getting loses. Their graph in the "won points vs contest points" is showing a great start. Also ONE! is starting with 2 wins and no defeats in this season. They graph is currently hiding below Master's. But believe me it is there. As 3rd is another clan, which has started with a win and has yet no defeats. It is LuFredd. The journey has begun. It will be intersting to see where this road is leading to. At the moment it is showing up. Currently in the 4th rank is FCC. Of all clans they have finished the most games last week. 1 of them goes to they side, but 3 games goes to the opponents. This is at least not what has been expected after last season. Actually I am not sure if they had last season a bad week like this. However, there is enough time left to get up again. At the bottom are 3 clans waiting for their first success yet. Python and WG lost both one 3v3 game in the past week, whereas HAWKS lost two games. But hopefully there is soon something coming in ^^.

PS: Give this thread finally some votes please :)


Finished games this week:

CL15: 3v3 Middle Earth in the Third Age

Motoki, Marcus Aurelius, Timinator • apex defeated TurboTT117, Hiro, JP - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29312471
CalmWaters, We ride!, Kratt defeated kwihade, Xenophon, Athena's Child - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29312473
Nave, FiveStarGeneral, Beren Erchamion defeated Stales78, alexclusive, Shokkolade - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29312470


CL15: 1v1 Timid Lands

Octane defeated Dreamworker - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29888305


CL15: 1v1 Strategic Greece

FiveStarGeneral defeated Photonic Symmetry - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29844689


CL15: 1v1 Great Lakes

Rufus defeated Octane - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29907959




Full list of finished games:

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/595291-clan-league-15-division-official-thread?Offset=2




Horserace:

1.  Lu Fredd -  1W -  0L -   5/  5 pts, 240 MP, 100.0% PC, 100.0% GW
2.  ONE!     -  2W -  0L -   8/  8 pts, 240 MP, 100.0% PC, 100.0% GW
3.  Masters  -  4W -  0L -  17/ 17 pts, 240 MP, 100.0% PC, 100.0% GW
4.  FCC      -  1W -  3L -   3/ 14 pts, 229 MP,  21.4% PC,  25.0% GW
5.  Python   -  0W -  1L -   0/  5 pts, 235 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW
6.  HAWKS    -  0W -  3L -   0/ 12 pts, 228 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW
7.  [WG]     -  0W -  1L -   0/  5 pts, 235 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW


% of games finished: 3.5
% of points finished: 3.9


Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2022 20:17:12

FiveStarGeneral
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Thanks for the update LF :]. Slow start for FCC, just barely started though so hopefully they can regain some momentum.
Why is DD 1st in the horserace?
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2022 20:25:42


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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I believe it sorts it by the name, if PC% is the same.

EDIT: No, ONE would be after Masters. I dont know.

EDIT2: It is random, if the PC% is the same. Thanks for the info @Justin.

Edited 2/20/2022 20:33:14
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/21/2022 00:13:58


NoName 2.1
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we are first… nice
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/28/2022 01:08:52

JustinR17 
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Just a reminder to clan contacts that forgot (and aren't on the discord server)

The mid-season registration started a few days ago and will continue until March 6, 2022 (whatever timezone Meld is in). If you have changes, mail Meldarion with them + player links.

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8285645937

The maximum of a roster remains at 27, if you are already at there, but need to add someone, you are allowed to remove people, as long as they have not played a single game. People that have been subbed out and won't play again, but have, are not allowed to be subbed out of the roster.
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/28/2022 19:44:15


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Update 02/28/2022:

Thanks for the votes guys. It's good now that I can directly find this thread.

In the last past days not that many games finished. But it have been 4 games at least. At the top regarding PC% are still LuFredd and ONE!. Both clans have no defeat yet, but both also didnt finish any games since the last update. With 1 win for LuFredd and 2 wins for ONE! both results are very shaky and can change fast. On 3rd but 1st in received points is Masters. However since the last update they only received 1 defeat, no victory. This now ruins their 66-0 run... Sry, guys. That's how busdrivers are. They place their bus always in the way. On 4th rank is Python. They finish 2 wins, but 1 loss and equal their stats to 50%. Also FCC ordered a positive week and bring home a win on Szeurope, coming closer to the 50% as well. On 6th rank also HAWKS drive in their first points after a rough start. Probably the take-off? I would like it :). On 7th rank is WG. The WG-Clan finished 2 games against Python - unfortunately Python's 2 wins. Means: 2 defeats this week for WG.


Finished games this week:

CL15: 3v3 Middle Earth in the Third Age

Platinum, Stales78, alexclusive defeated [WG] Reza, ChrisCMU, Super Smoove - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29481240


CL15: 2v2 Szeurope

Xenophon, Athena's Child defeated Hades, Terence Kill - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29634351


CL15: 2v2 Strategic MME

Platinum, FALSTAFF defeated clivan, Super Smoove - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29681228


CL15: 1v1 Battle Islands V

BusDriver defeated Master Atom ◆Elite◆ - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29814552



Full list of finished games:

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/595291-clan-league-15-division-official-thread?Offset=2




Horserace:

1.  Lu Fredd -  1W -  0L -   5/  5 pts, 240 MP, 100.0% PC, 100.0% GW
2.  ONE!     -  2W -  0L -   8/  8 pts, 240 MP, 100.0% PC, 100.0% GW
3.  Masters  -  4W -  1L -  17/ 20 pts, 237 MP,  85.0% PC,  80.0% GW
4.  Python   -  2W -  2L -   9/ 18 pts, 231 MP,  50.0% PC,  50.0% GW
5.  FCC      -  2W -  3L -   7/ 18 pts, 229 MP,  38.9% PC,  40.0% GW
6.  HAWKS    -  1W -  3L -   3/ 15 pts, 228 MP,  20.0% PC,  25.0% GW
7.  [WG]     -  0W -  3L -   0/ 14 pts, 226 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW


% of games finished: 5.2
% of points finished: 5.8




Edited 2/28/2022 19:47:41
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 2/28/2022 21:21:20

FiveStarGeneral
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That's how busdrivers are. They place their bus always in the way. xD
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 3/2/2022 08:59:28


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Haha nice updates, checked the thread the first time now and will definitely do so more often after that!
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 3/6/2022 04:40:34

JustinR17 
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Last reminder to clan contacts, there is less than a day left to submit roster changes for the midseason registration. Make sure to mail meldarion with any additions/removals along with their player links.

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8285645937

The midseason registration ends 2022-03-07 00:00 CET.
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 3/6/2022 13:51:06


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Update 03/06/2022:

Its March. 4 games have been added to the finished games last week. 3 of them with HAWKS participation. What effect have this games on the standings. Let's go it through. Now lonely on 100% PC% is ONE!. With 8 points vs 0 lost points, they are still waiting for more points to contest, but somehow there are no new games finishing for them. The last week was without progress for ONE!. On 2nd place now is Masters, who climbed on 85% now and hammer hard on ONE's first rank. It seems only one defeat for ONE and they will be TWO. Lufredd has fallen to 55% to the 3rd rank after their first defeat in this 0-1 week. It is still iteresting to see where they are goin to find their fight. At the top, center or in the lower relegation battle. On 4th rank is FCC. But they are coming closer and closer to the 50% mark. With another win this week and no defeat they are now at 47.6%. Directly followed by HAWKS with 44.4%, which had a quite successful week too. 2 wins vs 1 defeat, makes them climb out of the relegation area and changed the places with Python. Python lost 1 game last week and has fallen below the 40% PC. With 39.1% they are now 5% below the next non-relagation slot. But it is still early and the next game could change the field again. On 7th rank is still WG. Also with a 0-1 result this week, but a only clan yet without success. That said, 1 win wouldnt make a change. They need to catch up already some meters.


Finished games this week:

CL15: 3v3 Deadman's Rise of Rome

(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!!, JW, Rodrigo defeated Stales78, krunx, Tukuro - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29356102


CL15: 2v2 Szeurope

(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!!, J.P. defeated Enkeveh, NoName 2.1 - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29634352


CL15: 1v1 Timid Lands

master of desaster defeated GuestNWHSzY - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=29757237

CL15: 1v1 Great Lakes

Octane defeated MMM - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=30006564



Full list of finished games:

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/595291-clan-league-15-division-official-thread?Offset=2




Horserace:

1.  ONE!     -  2W -  0L -   8/  8 pts, 240 MP, 100.0% PC, 100.0% GW
2.  Masters  -  5W -  1L -  20/ 23 pts, 237 MP,  87.0% PC,  83.3% GW
3.  Lu Fredd -  1W -  1L -   5/  9 pts, 236 MP,  55.6% PC,  50.0% GW
4.  FCC      -  3W -  3L -  10/ 21 pts, 229 MP,  47.6% PC,  50.0% GW
5.  HAWKS    -  3W -  4L -  12/ 27 pts, 225 MP,  44.4% PC,  42.9% GW
6.  Python   -  2W -  3L -   9/ 23 pts, 226 MP,  39.1% PC,  40.0% GW
7.  [WG]     -  0W -  4L -   0/ 17 pts, 223 MP,   0.0% PC,   0.0% GW


% of games finished: 6.9
% of points finished: 7.6





Edited 3/14/2022 11:18:34
Clan League 15 Division A Official Thread: 3/6/2022 21:25:41


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This shows how likely which result is, if every remaining game is a 50/50 chance.
Thanks to Derfellios computing this.
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