Well if they all joined MTL would exceed 100 members and some would necessarily not make top 100.

About 25 people in mtl always boot in all games

Thanks everybody for your helpful replies and advice! Anyway I seem to have found the right path for me...

Good choice, and good luck!

"TLA trains as well gues. Master Hotarion does training games"

What exactly does he train? How to be as crap as he is?

"The popular ones are in no particular order are:
TLA The Last Alliance
TBA The Boiz Army
Excel
The Hodopian Dynasty
CORP
Saber-Rattlers
Discovery
101st"

Is this a joke? Saber-Rattlers? Training from a clan that tanked at the bottom of Div D?

lol. Yeah its true that Hotarion isnt very good. LND is altogether different.

Sabber isnt good for training ofc, but krinid made a list of popular clans. Sabber did become popular at one point as it was really good in clan wars.

They have a clan rating of 54.3. They were never really good they just brute forced it with numbers.

That's why winning a CW season has about as much prestige as a 25m swimming badge.

More activity=better in clan wars.

Excel's winrate is way higher than TLA, but TLA played way more games than us which makes them 1 rank ahead of us.

My list was never meant to be "the most skilled clans" - it was a list of the clans pretty much anyone can join and have activity, a community & some degree of people to have train you to improve your skills.

I explicitly excluded Masters, MH, FCC, Python b/c one does not just simply join Masters, MH, FCC, Python. You have to already be good, and essentially his question was how to get good, so I assumed he wasn't good.

But seems he was good enough to get into MH, so problem solved.

No need to put down other clans or players. Sure, Hotarian isn't the best at the game but he's very patient and willing to invest time in training newbies, and some players have appreciated that. Yes, there's better resources out there... but that doesn't mean Hotarian is bad. He does a great service to his section of the community and really pours in work. This site would be overall worse without Hotarian doing what he does to introduce newbies and casuals to the competitive side of the game. That guy really cares and listens.

one does not just simply join Masters, MH, FCC, Python. You have to already be good

Not necessarily. The process of joining 101st is simply to play a training game, play an MTL game, and ask for feedback. From there you're already in the Python family. MASTERs ended Apprentice and have been recruiting players who are willing to be active and whom they think will learn. M'Hunters similarly screen for promise and culture fit, although they expect you to have demonstrated enough motivation to have picked up the basics yourself. FCC has expectations, but Discovery is by far the easiest to get into among the really good training clans- any player willing to be nice and listen and put in just the littlest amount of work can get into Discovery and get a lot of personal attention there (at least this was true pre-TSFH merger).

The elite clans aren't as intimidating as they appear. They're full of people who love the game and community and can be incredibly nice, friendly, and helpful to those who show promise and want to learn.

Python has alexclusive and Redqueen. MASTERs have Timi and Kenny. FCC has Xeno and Ursus (Discovery). M'Hunters have Norman. There's a lot of other players like them. By and large the really, really good players on this site are incredibly generous with their time and delighted to help motivated players reach the highest levels. You shouldn't prefilter them out on the assumption they have high pre-requisites, because by and large they tend to be the best resources to learn from.

Honestly, I think this is universally true for the good players, even the ones with bad reputations for toxicity. I've gotten a bunch of training games out of Loxiiv, even.

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You don't need training.

You can self-teach yourself, like I did.

The FCC has kicked me out, but it didn't stop me.

Don't let them understimate your power.

You don't need anybody.

Soon the whole world will knoow and fear Madcat the boneless.



The Xenophon kicked me out and I will have my revenge, I promise.
I will surpass my master and take over the empire. Hail cats.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFjEvzE77ec

The Xeno-jedi has banished me, but I will return stronger than ever
and kill all the jedi. One. By. One.

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Learn everything you can in M'H, they offer a lot, and get the fuck out asap

I also was self-teaching myself.
Then I was very surprised when my opponents in CW used Timi-blockade in MME MA and conditional taps in FB. A mentor teaching you advanced staff isn't useless.

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lmao Bechaa
actually laughed out loud reading that

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@l4v.r0v

You mean this "Caring", "Listening" wonderful resource of a guy?

https://ibb.co/kyNNBrk

Who actively encouraged a player to join a clan league team and sabotage it?

wth has Hota been doing?

You mean this "Caring", "Listening" wonderful resource of a guy?

I never said he is caring or listening. I said he cares and listens in one specific context. Never talked once about Hota's character traits. People aren't real, FFDP. Never get the memo?

He trains up players, especially TLA players, with a lot of effort poured in. He even has written 7 chapters worth of Warzone fan fiction, including a very moving funeral scene. What he offers works for some people but obv wouldn't work once you cross like ladder 1500. For most players, TLA is an inadequate training clan.

Imo Bechaa's strategy should be everyone's default strategy.

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berdan next time I beat Xeno-sama it will be for you