@Ragnar, did you level up the Adv's for smelting/crafting speed & tech discount? And some of the ore Adv's as well? And got all the level bonuses for the ore production? Hope so, else you likely spent a few months longer than required, b/c when you have to smelting 35,000 bars and craft 5,000 items, it gets suuuuuuper tedious even with those Adv's, it's just plain ridiculous without them

86th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 1 dig speed, 900 start ap

krinid, yeah, I pretty much maxed everything out, used the speedy smelter&crafter and used a TON of supercharge mines/ time warps

87th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 900 start ap

Second Super Ascend!

New bonus: +25% AP
Kept: Legendary AV, TW, and SAC.
Bonuses: +1 slot, +25% AP

Woah, that's just two months. What strategy did you apply? I saw you got the first one around the time I got mine, but I'm still super far off the next super ascension in my current game (with legendary SAC, AV and Army Cache Boost instead of Time Warp - so really quite similar), using market + mercs. There's just not enough mercs yet ...

Just the "normal" Market Strat really. https://pkmx.github.io/wzi-levels/ is extremely helpful if you're not aware of it already. Once you get into Phase 4 advancements the bottleneck starts to shift to you rather than waiting for stuff (HRome, HScandi, HOT and HFL can all be completed without crafting or waiting for hospitals to upgrade - 20-30 minutes each without powers/actives needed), you can probably go from late Phase 3 to SA in maybe a week if you go hard.

One thing I note is that you're not in a clan though, clan requests help a lot with getting levels started, especially early in a SA.

Good point Mr FP makes, being in an active idle clan means you get lots of clan requests

you can get them in just about any clan, but you get them _quickly_ in active idle clans, in non-active idle clans, you sometimes need to wait 6-18 hrs for someone to fill your req, and sometimes you've already gone past the point where you need that request anymore

as for active idle clans ... TLA & Prime are 2 of the best

Hey, FDC exists!

Fair enough, I amend my statement to:

as for active idle clans ... TLA & Prime are 2 of the best, and FDC exists

Edited 8/21/2023 20:30:56

88th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1000 start ap

89th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1100 start ap


20.44 hrs, with less sleep got my first time under 1 day.

@Ivan, what's your target for Idle now? You've essentially finished the game (maybe ~89 times over?)

You already have everything you need, so hereafter it's just a matter of getting everything you want

Some possible options are ... get all Leg artis (need more dig speed buffs), get highest # of SAsc's (you need about 450 to beat Xeno), or some of the other ridic things like 134k start AP or 1 year of Idle time, etc

For the record, I'm somewhere around 250 but have all insanes; I stopped playing b/c:
(A) there's nothing material left to do
(B) it's been boring/repetitive for the last 200 SAsc's, lol
(C) it's tedious having to keep selecting all the artifacts I want to bring forward, weeding out the P/C/UC's from the R/E/L/I's, knowing that if I make a mistake, I just left (another) Insane behind (suspect I've down this about 4-5 times so far, no idea how many L/E/R's I've accidentally chucked; just too many artis to keep scrolling through and clicking, and once I misclicked the "Super Ascend" button when I was trying to click an arti at the bottom of the list; fortunately I had most of my Insanes selected already, but suspect I lose 2 on that one; even worse is if you only click any 2 artis and then accidentally click Super Ascend, you lose ALL other artis but those 2, regardless of how many carryover slots you have)

Edited 8/23/2023 15:22:21

No real target just go till something else grabs my obsession.

90th super +1250%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1200 start ap

first super ascend .. opted for 3rd spot went over with leg av and superchargearmycamp plus insane timewarp

91st super +1275%ap, 28 slots, 2 dig speed, 1200 start ap

I think 134k starting AP, all insane artis, all AP improvements maxed and idle time improvement at +24 hours means you beat the game. Until fizzer invents something new

And to have acquired all achievements related to Idle (tech runs etc)

Wasn't there an income achievement that was impossible to do?