-I think it's better to take alloy value and SAC
3rd artifact could be: leg time warp, leg triple strike or leg army cache

-use superpower skip level

For accuracy on the leaderboard, I would like to request that my score be set to -1.

“I” SuperAscended before the update was out for the phone, and messed everything up so badly that Fizzer had to reset me to pre-SAsc state. I have yet to SAsc again as I decided to wait to get an Insane first (1 Epic away).

I feel like the consensus best epic artifact is probably Time Warp and the consensus best Legendary artifact is probably Alloy Values.

Are there any frontrunners for best Insane artifact? Supercharge Army Camp? Army Cache Boost has got to be ridiculous too… any other sleeper picks?

I chose insane Army Camp Boost and no regrets so far. It dramatically speeds up the early game and helps with challenge levels/battles. I may eventually wish I'd gone with Army Cache Boost, but we'll see.

@MJ, Why are you doing Challenge levels again? Is there any value in it or just for kicks?

Have you re-gotten any of the rewards from Battles yet? I'm almost at the Epic artifact reward level. Just another 2055 BP to go.

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3rd SAsc
+25% AP

lmao at this rate Fizzer will need a mega-ascension update just for here

Ok, new conditions for "beating WZI":

- Have 1 of each artifact @ Epic or higher, including ability to carry each other post SAsc

That's it. LOL

Anything else such as having +1000% AP bonus etc will likely required in order to achieve that in a reasonable amount of time, so it's implied.

PS: here, you're a beast. And Math agrees. (;

Edited 1/3/2022 21:40:28

@krinid

I unlocked auto-conquer last night (5%) and was able to grab 100 AP from the first challenge level. My first two battle ranks were 7th and 5th. I think it'll be a while before I'm able to grab 1st, though it might be possible now if I can get a rare (or higher) SAC. I plan to unlock all useful autos for convenience/battles, so any additional AP I get from challenges will be a bonus.

How many Battle rewards did you get before your Super Asc? Assume you got the 25600 BP Epic, did you go past that one? 1895 BP more for my Epic reward.

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I got to about 15.5k BP and quit. I was going to get the battle epic until I realized I could dig for the last epic I needed almost as fast as I could earn it from battles, but with 1/10 the effort.

True enough. It's not worth it tbh, the # of Battles you need to play to get it is just ridic. It would make more sense if there were an Auto-Join WZIB advancement. Having to actively join THAT MANY GAMES just makes no sense. I can't imagine going for any of the rewards beyond Epic.

I'm digging for Insanes now, so just finishing the Epic reward in parallel, then I give up on WZIB forever except _maybe_ for the 1st place prize for another Epic post SAsc someday.

2nd SAsc
Extra card both times.

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@Tulsi
Which artys did you take each time? And how are you finding the plays through 1st and 2nd SAsc?

Legendary
Triple strike, alloy values, supercharge army camp and inspire mercenaries.

Sengoku is slow otherwise everything has been moving along quite fast.

First time I used supercharged skip levels to get to Europe, this time I am trying to save it till I can get to Hex. I believe just getting to Hex is more than half the time it takes to super ass. I don't think those other new levels will ever be quick to beat.

as SAs are not happening often, we need to make sure this thread doesn't die so just post something random every once in a while.

@Tulsi

I don't think those other new levels will ever be quick to beat.

They are once you maxed the main advancements. Not as quick as Hex Earth, but they are doable in 1-2 days each with an IM (either collected as one of the zillion powers on Hex Earth or with a leg IM artifact). Leg TS and Leg Army Cache are also useful but IM artifact will probably be sufficient to clear the other levels in a reasonable time. The only exception is Thirty Years War, which is by far the worst level, but also doable once you know where the large MCs are.

So, if you want to Super-Ascend as fast as possible, only playing Hex Earth (and skipping most other levels) is the way to go.

Just saying that the other new levels are not as bad if you got the right artifacts (in particular IM) and maxed AP advancements beforehand.

How many times have you SAsc'd now? What benefits have you chosen each time?

Interesting that Leg Army Cache & Leg IM are recommendations. Those are 2 that I cast out as being useful a long while back, but sounds like the environment of the new levels changes the playing fields somewhat.

Would have been interesting to see some maps with useful mortars. lol

Which is worse, Thirty Years War or Hard Trisk?

Skipping to Hex seems tricky as it's the 48th map ... need a lot of SL powers or level up Skip Levels, which means lots of play to even get that much AP.

I have just super-ascended once and I am not sure if I want to super-ascend a second time. Currently I am just digging and upgrading artifacts. So I might super-ascend again if I have an insane IM or army cache artifact. Or not. Since I have already played the new levels, there is no real incentive to start from scratch again.

And yes, you need to super power skip levels (i.e. have 5 of them) to reach Hex Earth at first - and ofc play the old levels before, i.e. mainly skip the new levels.

You can play Hex Earth 2 or 3 times to gain AP (even the replay of Hex Earth with reduced AP gives high AP in a short time) and then upgrade skip level advancement, so you don't need skip level powers (but you get those powers on Hex Earth, too).

Hard Trisk is worse than Thirty Years War cause for the latter there is a way to play it, it's just much harder to find the good spots than on the other new levels. It still sucks, but Hard Trisk sucks more :p

And sorry to disappoint you - there are mortars on the new levels but they are as bad as on all levels.

I super ascended for the second time yesterday. 50% AP, Insane Alloy Values, and Legendary Cache Boost. Alloy values was a wonderful luxury. Legendary would be sufficient, but I really like the insane. I had a rare supercharge army camp the first time

I actually like the slower pace of play that comes with starting over. It gives me something to do beyond just digging, but it isn't too fast like Phase 4 when you can beat most levels in a couple hours.