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Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 12:35:37

Toni
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Hey guys,
How much income after turn 4 and maybe if anyone knows after turn 5 is possible.
Thanks in advance
Toni
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 14:08:09


Master Ryiro 
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turn 3 18 Max
turn 4 I came up with 21, pretty sure 22 is not possible, but not certain
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 14:21:27

CleverTacticButFail 
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is your opponent allowed to participate?
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 15:13:45

Toni
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I don't think a opponent will do that in Ladder *CleverTactic
:')
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 15:27:21


καλλιστηι
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Technically speaking, you can attack an opponent who is not defending.
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 15:34:53


Master Ryiro 
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It becomes very complicated when you involve the opponent. You have to calculate the most efficient way for the opponent to tap 2 and 4 neutrals so you can maximize the expansion
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 16:08:23


Derfellios 
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22 is possible without help. For example, https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19731832

I searched an old ladder download, (almost 2 years out of date...), and it featured 19 games with 22 income at the start of turn 5.

For the first ten turns I computed what the highest number of armies deployed is after said number of turns. Here is the result:
1 : 9
2 : 13
3 : 18
4 : 27
5 : 32
6 : 37
7 : 46
8 : 55
9 : 58
10 : 59
Due to reinforcement cards, the numbers are all likely more than the actual income from turn 4 and onward. Also, this data says nothing about a theoretical maximums.

For example, a 5 bonus can be taken on turn 1 with 1 helpful tap from your opponent and China can be taken te taken as first turn bonus:

With some help, you even have an army left to spare. I doubt that 12 first turn is possible.

Edited 9/19/2021 17:09:30
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 19:54:51

Toni
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A great thanks to all of you especially for Derfellios. Hope it doesn't was to much effort for the research.
I think it is always good to know how many income a opponent could have.
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 21:20:37


Derfellios 
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These are very extreme cases and need specific set-ups to be even possible in a game. In a specific game, the maximum is often a lot less
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 21:22:31


Tac(ky)tical
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@ryiro 22 is very much possible!

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=27548972

edit: damn someone beat me to the punch! atleast derf use someone else game ;)

Edited 9/19/2021 21:23:54
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/19/2021 23:56:28

Toni
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Very well played example ty Tac(ky)tical
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 01:38:13


l4v.r0v 
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@Toni: this is tangential but you might find Phobos' pick guide helpful, since it details the different choices you have for fast income + other approaches - https://www.warzone.com/Forum/434535-1v1-ladder-strategic-picking-guide
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 05:28:42


Master Ryiro 
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Thanks Derf
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 06:21:11


Loxiiv 
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masta weewo
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 08:00:05

Toni
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Thanks @l4v.r0v this pick guide is really helpful, I wanna improve my picking skill anyway :)
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 08:54:48

Xenophon 
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Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 10:00:38

Toni
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Okay @Xenophon your picks are strange, I mean is that the way you would pick in Ladder as well or was that just for fun with a friend ?
Some kind of counter picking extrem so far as I can tell (maybe I'm wrong and I don't get it) :))
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 10:37:49

Xenophon 
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This is how you should pick on the 1v1 ladder
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19039806
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 10:59:14

Toni
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Thanks @Xenophon I just decided that I am to stupid for this game. I have no clue why you just make 3 picks, some kind of unpredictable strategy?
Strategic 1v1 (Ladder): 9/20/2021 11:01:01


l4v.r0v 
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@Toni: Xeno's trolling. Those are meme picks.
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