Let us know how your TW experimentation goes. What level do you have TW at? The jury is still out . . .

I would have thought that epic CD would be enough to surpass Leg BMB consistently ... but I guess that's still only CD 12% vs BMB 160%. Also depends on whether you have Increased Bonus Money maxed out (I do), b/c if so BMB has less impact when applied. Also depends on how many crafters you have & what you're crafting. Assuming it's >10 crafters making E Bolts, over ~8hrs, that should give about 4-5 E Bolts = av 12-25B profit from CD. To get that same value from BMB, it would need to add 417K-868K/sec money income over the 8 hrs. Seems too high for BMB to take on.

Typically my Epic BMB near mid to end of level on a high level map adds 100-300K/sec (I forget tbh for the final 5-ish levels), so I suppose it is within scope of a Leg BMB. But Leg CD would be another story altogether.

My Rare CD outperforms my Epic BMB even towards early level.

I am currently early in China.

My Rare CD increases my Rivet production profit by ₩ 35.57 k/s (from ₩ 442.64 to ₩ 478.21 k/s) per Crafter. Yes, that is more than 6% because the second item does not have any extra materials consumed.

Meanwhile, my Epic BMB produces ₩ 68 k/s (bumping me from ₩ 107 to ₩ 175 k/s).

So, with 2 Crafters, Rare CD > Epic BMB… I have 5 Crafters.

Guess it's time to start upgrading my poor Craft Double . . .

Separate tangent . . . why are there no Advancements to reduce Active artifact cooldown time? That would a lot of them back into contention for being useful. Not even phase 4 touches the concept.

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It’s rather depressing. I’m still kicking myself for upgrading if ACB before discovering how great Crafting is. My current artifacts:

Legend: ACB
Epic: HB, BMB, SAC
Rare: SC, CD, MD, ISV, TMB
Uncommon: HD
And other fodder

I am full timing ACB, CD, SC. Though BMB and ACB could potentially be swapped late game.

Downgrade artifact needs to be a thing. I’d pay 50 coins for it.

Despite being stuck with Rares, they get the job done:



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Unless I'm misunderstanding you, sounds like we do the opposite. I start with ACB, TMB, BMB, then swap out for SC, and will likely add CD to it once I upgrade it enough. Putting in ACB late in the level doesn't make sense b/c by that time armies/sec pales massively in comparison to merc & draft income. Only thing I need late level is more money to buy mercs. ACB only gives me value early in the level when there is nothing to craft yet, and little to no mercs to draw down on yet.

I must have misunderstood you though ... surely you don't start the level with SC & CD ... when there are no crafters?

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I start ACB, TMB, BMB until my first Crafter.

Then I swap to ACB, BMB, SC.

Then, once I get a couple Crafters, I check the math.
Then ACB, CD, SC.

Late game, BMB can potentially replace ACB as I am trying to buy Mercs as quickly as possible.

I see. So Early game we're the same, but the switch to ACB, CD, SC ... why not BMB, SC, CD?

When I've done the math, I find that:

# of armies given by ACB < # of mercs that can be bought with money provided by BMB

And late game while it might be the case that because the final merc camps can be expensive that ACB provides enough to outweigh BMB, the # of armies provided by army camps in general (with or without ACB) is so insignificant that even if ACB is slightly higher returns than BMB (I'm not sure it does, but it's possible on some levels), it's not a factor anymore, it's really just crafting profit that finish the level at that point (so SC & CD). It would take days to weeks to earn enough armies to finish a level instead of hours relying on crafting.

I do the math as well. My BMB/ACB has cheaper Armies than my current Merc Camps per Army, so ACB tops for now. Again, I check the math regularly for when the balance tips in BMB favor.

ACB has the added advantage of larger Drafts without having to remember to toggle.

Remember, it’s Legendary ACB vs Epic BMB. If they were equal, it’d likely be in BMB favor at all times.

By late game, you have so many Bonuses, that BMB outweighs ACB in usefulness. But again, it’s close. Crafting dwarfs Bonuses so much, that the Draft boosting effect with one less toggle is nice.

It’s rather disgusting, honestly.

Edit: Just checked, and my BMB is outperforming ACB already. Equivalent of a 3.24 cost Merc Camp, when my current Merc Camps cost around 2.

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LOL, true that, tedious swapping to put ACB+DB in . . . I do the same, need them both for the max effect. And you're right, one less swap is significant. It's actually one of the reasons I tend to play on mobile now, b/c the swapping is faster than in browser.

I missed the Leg ACB vs Epic BMB factor - yea that could make the difference.