@TI; good to hear. Please don't be influenced again though! What I mean by that is be skeptical of suggestions, particularly from players like Ville.

Deadline - maybe tomorrow, maybe Thursday. We'll see how the voting goes :)

His balls can be seen as a potential wolf as he is a good player who hasn't been killed yet.

@Kantos, it looked like you were making a sly accusation but I guess it was just because of ESL.

@Arun, no I don't just lap up what people say. I'm not lapping up what you're saying. I'm not convinced that his balls or Clav are wolves. They didn't figure out something Gnuff figured out? So? Who else came to the same conclusions as Gnuff? This is weak.

You say you're tempted by a multilynch? I don't know how many times I have to say this, Multilynch is bad! We don't have the numbers for that! And even if we did it would still be better to lynch one person at a time unless we know for sure that more than one person was a wolf.

@Clav, leader probably wasn't the right word, I just meant you've been contributing more than most.

Here's something I don't understand: the night kill. Why did they go for MoD?

I'm looking forward to getting stuck into this later but a couple if points.

Gnuffs conclusion that Apollo was a wolf was helped by the fact that he knew he wasn't.

MoD was killed for two reasons I think. One, because they know that our angels are likely very quiet. Almost everyone else has been accused which would normally flush out angels. But also he is unlikely to be lynched by the village. Most of the rest of us the wolves could put forward a case to lynch.

Edited 2014-09-30 18:47:09

Skunks list of suspects
In order of most suspected:

1)Lawls (We all know why)

2)Ville (Suspected him from a while back, he is high chance a wolf)

3)Genghis (Every round I bring him up and you are quick to forget about him, he says little of use)

4)General Arun (I believe we are being tricked here people, read below)

5)His Balls (His balls is a very cleaver player, I am suspicious but not greatly)

And for the master trickery I think we are falling for: I believe the wolfs may have sacrificed Apollo to get attention away from them. It is irrelevant that Apollo is the juggawolf as he killed on the night he died, and he had a good person to do so, a vigilante that admitted to being one! General Arun and Genghis's quick posts near each other to vote makes be think they where talking right before they voted, a normally villager would not do that as they would suspect the other of being a wolf. C-17 was tricked into voting for Apollo as the perfect scapegoat, the man that they where going to kill!

For tonight I suggest we kill Genghis!

That would explain the whole madness of yesterday's voting; they threw Apollo under the bus to avoid suspicion, and then counter-voted to lynch Gnuff to avoid suspicion from voting Apollo . . . it's a bit confusing, but it makes sense when you think about it


I'll test your reasoning here. I vote Genghis, and we'll see who votes with me and who against . . .

They'd throw their most powerful wolf away? Please don't give me this bullshit. Skunk, go home you're drunk. Post times are irrelevant; a decent wolf wouldn't have a staged conversation in that style. Why the hell would we vote Ghengis when we know nothing about him? Let me eat and like His Balls, I can get stuck into this. I have a lot of work so that might be quite a bit later but oh well :)

Look at the FACTS. Gnuff was a VILLAGER. Apollo was a WOLF. You need to look at who pushed the vote to lynch Gnuff, and who protected Apollo.

Even without knowing Gnuff was innocent, it remained very unlikely a wolf would vote another wolf. Therefore, Ska voted a villager, Gnuff, meaning he was likely not the only wolf to try and kill the innocent. The logic is simple.

I'm now confused because looking back Clavicus Ville wasn't vehemently against voting Apollo. His Balls wasn't very passionate either but he did oppose an Apollo vote. Combined with his poor advice, bad judgements and empty messages, I must suspect His Balls as the most likely wolf. With Lawlz is is too difficult to tell if he is a wolf, trolling or retarded.

Vote His Balls and apologies to Clavicus Ville. For now at least you are not a suspect of mine :)

this is not good the votes are getting spread again

Spread votes is excellent. Gives us more information. It's only bad if we don't get a wolf at the end of it...

in the beggining of the game, spread is better, but now with less people the wolves can just choose the one that is not a wolf

Edited 2014-09-30 19:06:55

Yes I see your point. If you can trust me, everything is ok though :) You either pick my option or the Elder option. I won't blindly follow the leaders while they're incorrect though.

Okay Arun. I do admit that my hunting hasn't been great but I am sure that my advice has been fairly logical. Surely you as a villager can see that we need to stick together to avoid any split votes from the village. We just need to get it right this time.

When I said we should follow the confirmed village I didn't mean blindly. I meant we should discuss first, put forward theories and then decide together. I just thought having an agreed nominal leader would be the best way to do this and the only people who could be leaders are confirmed villagers.

Yesterdays voting looked so much like an attempted bussing of appollo to win favour and your sudden assurity is extremely strange. Gnuff (a confirmed villager) being involved is the only thing giving me doubt that you are a wolf.

Anyway, I am still trying to put together a solid case for anyone at the moment.

As am I. But your advice (posts in general) do look like so much hot air to me. You seem to manage to post a lot without saying much.

the way u put arun is hard.
if I go with u means that I can be used for wolves in later games if u are one.
if I go with the confirmed villager means I cant make decisions by myself in a game.

Kantos. Theorise please. We will discuss for a bit I just Dont want anyone to vote randomly before discussion any more.

By the way, I admit defeat on vote analysis. I guess there would be something there for someone cleverer than me. I wonder whether time if votes could be utilised.

well I think going after drunk people doesnt help if we discover if he was a villager and dont forget that drunk can become another roles beside wolf, and we already get the drunk who turned into a wolf (Ska2D2)
the problem is that a drunk wolf continue wolf always.

my question is

hhh ??? he will die by innactive today if not vote
his ball ??? we talked a lot but I cant see him as wolf but could be a clever wolf
Kasparov ??? someone defend him, with this, I dont know if he is a wolf or maybe a villager
Lawls ... I think everyone agrees with is why he is suspicious
frank ??? he should be dead because of the double missing votes in a row in day 2 and day4 (he was drunk day 3)
Dr. Stupid ??? very quiet
Coaleyes ??? very quiet and was silenced 2 times
Clavicus Vile ??? we have been going on together with me, you and his ball trying to get the wolves or I was getting controlled
Lord Veigar ??? another quiet
Ace Windu ??? quiet and was drunk, sometimes show himself


in other words... I'm lost and doing decisions in this case is very very hard

I think I discorvered an angel, so please try not give more hints. this or I found 2 wolfes now

Edited 2014-09-30 20:10:48

Ace Windu - consistently logical. Says Dont lynch active players who make mistakes I agree. Village.
Clavicus Vile - I still haven't seen justification for suspicion on vile despite properly searching for it just then. He caught lawlz mishap post first.
Coaleyes - get back hinting please. ???
Dr. Stupid - also called out lawlz after the mis post.
Frankdeslimste - sorry about your internet problems but I hope the virus gets you this roind/.
G. Arun - I'm not gonna let the gnuff alliance dissuade me from my thoughts. I think you are a wolf. So many statements lately have been so dodge. You are deserving of a post in itself.
Genghis - hmm. Was smart villager in last two games. I see some active hiding here which is slightly different. Also missed the fact that TI was confirmed until really late showing he is not concentrating. Wolves concentrate less I think since they know who the wolves are.
Heyheuhei - see frank.
his balls. - still trying.
JSA - noted the very small chance that you could be a wolf but it doesn't concern me so long as you stick with us. Do you have any more seering info for us?
Kantos - did a few OTT town things during this thread. 'Multi kill is so wrong'. Some parroting too. A bit Wolfy maybe.
Kasparov - jay considered Wolfy due to low activity. Not sure why I found this fishy 'I would have voted gnuff'.
Lawlz - I guess we have to really consider after the slip. Anyone else and for sure we would have lynched him.
Lord Veigar - almost as bad as frank and hhh.

So there's a few thoughts. I can't seem to get Arun out of my suspects list. Perhaps I need fresh eyes.

I wouldn't mind voting inactives again though.

Edited 2014-09-30 20:30:56

Low activity? I've been making at least a post or two every voting cycle, but okay o_O