Cant talk till day. Still drunk.

Thanks for doing that his balls I'd just motivated myself to take a look. Looking at that I'm even more convinced the correct move is to go for Kasparov. HHH proof can wait although I would like it ASAP (tbh if he is an angel he may well be killed tonight). I still have 3 tier 1 suspects! We don't need to act so desperately in terms of targeting one specific player (again, I apologise for my earlier vendetta against his balls).

Wow, a ton of suspicion on me all of a sudden.

Fine, then. I'm wolf. Vote for me!

Kasp. Either fight because you are villager and Dont want us to make a myslynch or fight because you are a wolf and Dont want to be caught.

Kind of sick of all this indifference. Why are we even here?

Dont do a Kantos.

Edited 2014-10-12 19:18:30

The wolves confidence was growing, and as the village numbers depleted, they knew they were closing in on victory; the villagers would soon all be dead, they reckoned.

And so, as they'd done many times before, the wolves snuck out in the dead of night, and hunted down their target, and they found him licking an empty ice-cream tub in his bathroom. Such weird behaviour could not be tolerated, they thought, and they devoured him quickly, enjoying the distinctly strawberry taste of the man who had just finished his second tub of strawberry ice-cream of the day.

Clavicus Vile is DEAD. He was a villager.

Elsewhere in the village, several men grew angry at the man who ran the off-license; he had run out of alcohol! There will be no more drunks this game.

People at risk of dying through inactivity today:
*Ace Windu
*Heyheuhei
*Tactical Incursion
***Kasparov
***Lawlz

* Through missing 3 votes total.
*** Through missing 2 votes in a row.

Right so considering we have two elders and a probable angel that is a very very odd choice by the wolves. We have to think why they would do this? They took a while to make this decision too.

You would think that if hhh is not a wolf then they would kill him knowing he's an angel. The fact they didn't kill him surely means he's a wolf. However, we do know that the wolves like their tricky kills.

What do you think?

Edited 2014-10-12 19:50:15

Doesn't mean anything. Clavicus was a target the wasted to get rid of - intelligent villager. HHH also said he would protect himself. We should look at who Clav suspected; if that's drastically different from our suspicions we may need to rethink.

For now, the target is Kasparov though. Defend yourself!

suspect Kasparov above all, just from his general manner. Ace I do suspect but i'd prefer to look more in detail at his actions before pushing for that.

–Clavicus

He also didn't think HHH was a wolf; or at least, he didn't think the proof was too concrete. Therefore the wolves want us to suspect HHH and may be trying to save Kasp/Ace. Since Clav also protected Lawlz, they probably want Lawlz dead.

Off this logic alone:
Wolves: Kasp, Ace Windu
Villagers: Lawlz, HHH

I'm leaning hard towards Kasparov. Looking at lynching Ace Windu next turn.

What do I think?!?!?!!

I think I just wasted about 35 minutes digging back through old chats to build my case against Clavicus and now that's blown all to pieces, so yeah... I think I'm just a little ticked right now...

his balls, There is a scenario where HHH could be the angel
If HHH is the angel, and If the wolves believed that he would angel protect himself as he said he would, wouldn't they consider him too high of a risk?

right now my top suspects are:
1. Arun
2. Kasp
3. Lawlz
4. ????? maybe his balls maybe ace

Our confirmed villagers can all talk now, right? Please contribute, guys. We need to hear your thoughts.

Put a case forward like a villager would... why am I so suspicious? I've done nothing to hurt the village.

Arun,
I agree that I want to hear more from Kasp, but citing a Clavicus accusation doesn't seem overly useful. He accused almost every single player in this game at one time or another...
(that was one point that I was going to make in my case against him.)

Dom, can we have another rule clarification. You said at the start the angel would not be allowed to protect themselves an unlimited amount of times.

Can you tell us how many times they can protect themselves?

Arun, the kill always means something. We just need to think harder between us all. Why did Skunk survive?

Kasp, what is the point in just flaking like that?

Edited 2014-10-12 22:51:08

his balls...how is that rule clarification helpful knowledge for a villager???
That information would be more helpful to a wolf, I would think...

I suppose it could be of some use to a wolf bit if we are told angels could only protect themselves 3 times them we would know hhh is lying.

On a side note the role seems a bit overpowered protecting themselves.

lying about what? did HHH list who he protected each turn?

Okay, so my reaction was a bit overly dramatic.

You're right, I've mostly been fluffing my way through this game so far. I could offer excuses as to why that's been the case, but the end result is the same: I haven't really contributed anything of value.

Since I'm a bit pressed for time tonight, I'll just review the last voting session:

Let's assume that the wolves know who isn't a wolf. And thus, they would do their best to influence the votes away from wolves. We've proven now that Kantos is a villager, with his death. Therefore, it is safe to assume the vote was at least partially influenced by wolves.

Who influenced the vote towards Kantos? And, afterwards, who bandwagoned?

In this case, question 1: a coalition of 'proven' 'villagers'. Could it be possible that group was infiltrated, or made up entirely?

Who was on that coalition? JSA, but he's dead now . . . that leaves Tactical Incursion, Skunk and Dr. Stupid, right? My guess is, one of them's a wolf and the other three were cleverly misled.

And then after that, those that voted Kantos were Ace Windu, his balls, Clavicus (dead) and HHH . . . correct? I might be missing some data, but here's my conclusions:

A) One of the 'proven villagers', isn't. We need to review that.

B) Out of the resulting bandwagon, there's bound to be at least a few wolves. There has to be. Let's shed some light on the ones that killed Kantos, especially Ace, HHH and his balls.

Edited 2014-10-13 00:48:07

How bout we get a bunch of lists off people again. We villagers need to start the chatter going. Let the wolves be conspicuous by their absence.

Dr Stupid is proven?

No Arun. Kasp put quotation marks there for a reason.

Who's you current top threw for lynch Arun?

Edited 2014-10-13 10:03:50