Veigar if you are wolf you want as many suspects as possible to confuse us.

Only feasible people to vote at this stage are you, Lawlz or His Balls. I agree with JSA that we should vote you. If you are a wolf, we have a another nearly certain one. If you are a civilian, our suspects are Lawlz and His Balls (in that order). Your play is good?! What exactly have you done?

All that im saying, is that you are making a terrible mistake. Kill His Balls and I if you want, but the only thing it will cause is make the wolves closer to victory.

Edited 2014-10-04 21:58:10

Just to keep everyone up to date on my thinking: Arun vs. his balls

I don't see where suspicion of his balls comes from. Well, I do know where it came from. It came from Arun (who I consider to be a wolf). However, the suspicion is now coming from 2 of the 3 confirmed villagers. That is something I have to take into consideration because one of them knows the identities of the specials. So here's my question to you, skunk: Is your suspicion of his balls based on the public forum or does that come from information that a "special" gave to you? That is the only thing you could tell me that would lead me to support a his balls lynch.

Next item:

I'm lolling at the his balls is a wolf, let's lynch viegar thing. If his balls IS a wolf, (which I don't buy yet), then he is a dangerous one and should be lynched immediately. Mind you, I'm not against a Viegar lynch. He is on my suspect list. I would definitely support a village vote against Viegar. But the logic tying them together seems a bit thin. Seriously though, if you think that his balls is a wolf (I still don't think he is), we need to lynch him right away. I mean...how many turns do we actually have left here?

Third item: Kantos vs. Lawlz
In my book, they're both wolves. If we want an easy wolf kill to get our swagger back, this would be the way to go. I prefer Kantos here because he actually seems to cast meaningful votes. Lawlz is just all over the place and votes in no direction at all. All we know is that he seems to have it out for myself and Arun and he defends Clavicus. I won't even use that as an argument against Clavicus because interpreting Lawlz behavior is frankly beyond me at this point. One thing is for sure though and that is he's not helping the village or the wolves any so I see him as a lower priority than Kantos.

In summary, I would support a village vote lynching any of these:
Arun - pretty sure he is a wolf
Kantos - certain he is a wolf
Lawlz - certain he is a wolf
Viegar - not certain, but kind of wolfy

These are my two suspects that no one else seems to want to talk about:
Clavicus
Kasparov

his balls - I WILL NOT support a village vote against his balls UNLESS either more damning evidence comes out OR skunk assures me that his suspicions are based on information from a special.

I don't like your tone, veigar.

Vote: Veigar

Jay, that's not a lot of credit you are giving to Arun and Apollo. Its not exactly the most dastardly scheme. However if you really dont give them credit for pulling off such a deceit and tricking you then remember they aren't the only wolves so it wasn't necessarily their idea anyway. Arun I notice you trying to brush the whole thing under the carpet now it has been caught out by the way.

Okay that's a lot of writing arun. Good. I will ask jay and skunk to pick out any points they find convincing and if need be, offer my retort to them. Obviously I dont need to and probably can't (since I believe you are a wolf) convince you so I won't waste my breath.

The pertinent information that I have is that I know that I am not a wolf. This obviously makes the conclusions i draw a lot easier for me. I know I cannot convince other villagers 100% so I decided to avoid using a'because I'm a villager you must be a wolf' roundabout kind of atgument. I decided to try to argue the case without that info, I.e. from the rest of the villages perspective. Apologies for the lack of clarity.

So you are writing like that for effect? thought so. You are trying to convince us that you are so angry about the game that you can't help but speak like that. It doesn't wash with me at all though since this is written and not said. If somehow you really are a villager and that angry at others incompetencies then please just fucking chill out you idiot.

The number of locations where the different factions chat has got nothing to do with how much they need to concentrate. I guess we will just have to disagree on who needs to try harder. I have put my best case forward there.

Saying I think I'm 99% innocent can never be considered a typo. What were you trying to say, 100%? There is no way someone who knows they are village would even put a % on how village they are anyway.

Err yeah the Apollo lynch was apparently down to gnuff. I was talking about everything said between you and apollo after gnuff was gone. You adapted to the situation.
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I have literally drawn a line under this for now though as it is absolutely obvious to me that lawlz must go this round. He is by far the most anti village. What more evidence do we need? We should assume we are at lynch or lose so therefore if we need a lynch now to get us to the night phase after which we will have more information from the night kill.

Once again, the plan to keep him around as he might provide info is not working. He says nothing of use.

Stupid, clav is not on my list really. The accusations seem fairly baseless and have jsut snowballed without actual foundation.

Kasparov is on the list. Just one for another day.

Hi hhh, are you enjoying the game? Fancy putting forward a theory like a good villager?

@ Veigar: I have no information on his balls' role.

I'm fine to delay His balls/me.

We must lynch Lawlz, Veigar or Kantos this round. I would prefer Veigar or Kantos. Out of them I'd prefer Veigar. Elders please talk!!

As for the 99% thing; I was conveying how others see me. The fact that is a massive part of your case against me exposes your desperation here.

Skunk; give ALL your information to JSA and Ti.

I would prefer lawlz. Why not lawlz Arun?

Lawlz has never tried to protect me. There's no link between us :)

Edited 2014-10-05 09:07:00

Arun. I think you've said your peice regarding skunks info. He has his reasons not to give it up and provided he guides us with it or releases it if a special is actually in danger then I actually dont see why it is that important.

I see. Well I think we can see that lawlz efforts at protection are completely random. He gives no discussion and then just throws a random vote out. Let's see what the rest decide.

Deadline can wait until tomorrow if necessary - I'm fairly busy today!


This discussion is class, mind!

His Balls you are blatantly sabotaging the village. Established villagers are trustworthy. There is no reason to withhold ANY information from them, particularly from stronger players too. This is noted - another attempt by you to make wolves safer.

SKUNK, GIVE JSA AND TI THE NAMES.

If you do not you are either retarded, lying or helping wolves defend a farcicle role claim. Stop bigging yourself up by making the names exclusive to you. You're jeopodising the game despite what the 'specials' (I bet they're wolves though) say.

Edited 2014-10-05 12:11:04

I'll have a quick look at the other options than lawlz.

Veigar
Bandwagon first round
I guess I'll vote eliza
Supports me
Oh shit. I just realised that is the extent of his input.
I'll go with lynching Veigar guys.

Kantos
Bandwagon first round
Voted blind second round wtf
Its possible silver is a villager - and?
Dont like the idea to double kill
Oh hi BTW I told you silver might be village
Let's avoid the double kill
Votes TI - multi kill is so wrong - this is all the OTT village I was on about
Please seer me - self preservation
The almost useless lists hurriedly put together
I'll let the confirmed decide - no input
Gnuff bandwagon
Not good spreading votes
You said you discovered an angel and no one pursued that. Well I'm going to now. How did you do that?
The slip up 'wolf too'
Basically capitulated under pressure of Lynch
I'd be happy with this lynch too.

I didn't "Just go for Eliza". I tried to save gnuff, who turned out to be a villager. And nearly everyone went with the Mystery bandwaggaon, so don't single out Kantos and I just from that. And as I said earlier, I haven't been active that much because I have other things to do in my life. Never have I caused a lynch unless I was sure that the person looked suspicious and was trying to kill a villager (like with gnuff).

Just because I say one thing that support his balls im automatically a wolf? In that case, Dr. Stupid would also a wolf, since he is also defending my cause. Do you guys realize that the only evidence you have against me is one post? Arun, you are no better with Lawlz with these accusations.

Edited 2014-10-05 14:58:57

Veigar. You have been very inactive. Its true. You have recently been accused and here you are. Im interested to here who you suspect?

Why Lawlz? He's even voting WITH US this round. Perhaps you're scared he'll out you(to everyone)?

I see lawlz has voted for Veigar but I'm really not sure we can consider that 'with us'. In fact lawlz voting for him actually counts for Veigar in my book.

Lawlz votes are just random though, right?