Concerning Draft boosts, for what it's worth, I just today gave up on using my uncommon Draft Boost artifact. Until this exact day, I used this artifact not because I believed in it (I didn't exactly) but of the four passive artifacts that take effect constantly and aren't tied to specific actions (and aren't smelting/crafting related, because those are pretty much nerfed to death) - namely the two Money income boosts, the Army Camp Boost and Mine Boost - I only owned two, the two Money artifacts. So, therefore, and because I'm still a proponent of artifact swapping (at least for the time it takes to upgrade three artifacts to epic so that the numbers are in favor of upgrading and not swapping), I used those two and kept the third slot for whatever I needed it for - upgrade discounts, cache boosts, etc. And as I am drafting way more often than upgrading assets, the Draft Boost just was my default occupant of this third slot and was just replaced for the occasions that I actually claimed caches or upgraded my mines. This time finally has ended today because I found myself an Army Camp Boost, and immediately an uncommon one. I will still swap in discounts and boosts as I need them, but I replaced my 8% draft boost with a 20% Army Camp Boost for good - that is how much I believe in draft boosting, not. One more artifact to sacrifice when the time has come, without even bothering with doing the math if this is the right decision.

Edited 6/23/2021 01:02:01

Given your account level and your achievements, I'd suspect that those information weren't legitimately acquired and Fizzer would consider publishing them spoilers. I might be wrong, but having collected enough APs to unlock all Phase 4 advancements with only defeating Ursa:Luna is highly unlikely.

Who is that directed at Phoenix? Or did something get deleted here?

@Phoenix: If this type of information is considered spoiler, then I would like to remove it and never publish similar information again. But, I do not see any reason why some information that is avaiblable to everyone could be spoiler.

You are right that my AP is low, and I have not unlocked Phase 2 yet. I completed Sengoku a few days ago.

Edit: @krinid: It seems that my previous reply got downvoted and disappeared. It is on AP cost to upgrade Phase 4 advancements, and effect of Speedy Crafters/Smelters and Fog Buster.

Edited 6/28/2021 14:30:12

Not sure how that is a spoiler? We talk about that type of stuff all the time.

Phase 4 has been unlocked, and the contents have been discussed in another thread: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/557734

With that revealed, don't think there's anything left in the game that hasn't been revealed yet. Strategies are legit topics for discussion.

All levels have been played. All artifacts have been gathered. All powers used. All phases unlocked & details made known. Players have ascended, some twice.

Maybe the only thing that remains to be done is maxing out each AP Adv & upgrading all artifacts to Insane? lol

#nearImpossibleGoals

Muli (who has unlocked Phase 4 as well) got his posts deleted because he posted upgrade costs and other info which he hadn't unlocked yet. The Fog Buster artifact looks like it may be even more terrible than I imagined. Even if it revealed 1024 territories at Insane, I still wouldn't get it.

Fog Buster is 24 territories @ Epic, so 48 Legendary, 96 Insane. Simply put - totally not worth it.

Pretty sad that the highest level doesn't even reach that of the FB power, which is already underpowered on large levels.

I really can't see anyone using that artifact.

@functor: I really don't mind you posting those numbers. In fact I would love if we officially "knew" all those stuff. But the last time someone posted similar information, the player posting them was accused of reverse-engineering the app/game to obtain those facts. In those cases I doubt that such "information [...] is avaiblable to everyone". This could even be considered hacking. And whether such actions are deemed tolerable ultimately is up to the people in charge aka Fizzer.

Edited 6/28/2021 19:13:35

@Phoenix: Thanks for explanation! I understand this rule of the forum now, and I would not post similar information again.

Folks ... let's be clear, the info for all phases 1-4 is now totally publicly known. It's posted in the forums. It's not a secret. Talk about it. This isn't looked down upon, it's not against any rule.

If you try to avoid talking about things others haven't done themselves yet, you'll likely need to stop posting in the forums altogether b/c they are new players every day who have done nothing and anything you can say will be a spoiler. Don't talk about Europe Huge, b/c some people haven't gotten there yet. Don't talk about your artifacts, b/c some people haven't found that one yet. In fact, don't talk about artifacts or digs at all, b/c someone that is playing the tutorial for the first time right now doesn't know about it (no digs on the tutorial).

Ok, I'm being facetious but come on folks ... the forums are meant to discuss this kind of thing. The only thing that was forbidden was talking about stuff that _no one_ has done yet, whereby the info had to come from some unauthorized method. Master Jz has solved that for us, he's unlocked phase 4 & posted in the forum for all our benefit -- and it hasn't been deleted, so that's the supporting evidence that it's okay.

Well, krinid, I agree with you on most parts, but functor's original post actually got deleted by now, so what does that tell us?

Well I wasn't able to read it so I dunno ... haha

I don't fully understand what it means to be deleted or downvoted tbh. Did multiple people downvote it so it dropped off? Or did Fizz delete is?

Well, phase4 information that are correctly available is only their unlocking cost and value, since people have reach it. But so far nobody (as we aware of) have do the unlocking to get the additional info about the incremental cost and value. If some people get those information by 'other means' (which Fizzer referred as reverse engineer) than they are not allowed to be shared. It is technically illegal to do reverse engineer.

functor's post was about the AP costs for the first upgrade (not unlock) and every upgrade thereafter. I don't know how he got them and honestly, I don't care. Perhaps he is friends with some player who has maxed out every single advancement but doesn't speak about their achievements publicly (perhaps because of language difficulties) but told functor. Perhaps he analyzed the app's resource files (which, to be honest, to me is almost like public knowledge, android apps adhere to a standardized format and no-one can prevent me from simply extracting an archive file, if something should be kept secret, at least encrypt it). What I know is, that I haven't saved his post locally in order to have them now that they were deleted. Mostly, because by the time I've finally reached phase 4 this information will already be public. And for everyone like me who is months (if not years) away from reaching phase 4, why would I care about those numbers at the moment. We already know the advancements that phase 4 brings and if players are determined to upgrade some advancement, they will do so (almost) no matter the costs. I enjoyed playing WZI even before I found out about all those spreadsheets players were linking in the forum.

For any #'s which aren't confirmed by someone unlocking them, we simply base the math on what has come so far. We know the mechanics for AP Adv (unlock cost + incremental cost) & artifacts (value of each upgrade level doubles).

Are there exceptions? Yes, like Speedy Crafters is <2x the previous level (which is sad tbh, it's a broken system when you have to invest in something before you even know how much value it will give you - just show the target up front; same with AP Adv, show the incremental values; no one likes bad surprises).

We'll correct these incorrect assumed values as we learn verified information. People are tracking all of this in Google spreadsheets and sharing among the community.