Arun answer you straight? The only 'facts' you know about this discussion is that you read in the Mail that it will be bad for Wales.

If you knew anything about Scots- English history, or economics you wouldn't be spouting your ignorance for anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge to laugh at :D

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Can we please stop insulting each other?

And the polarisation is indeed an issue, but every four years the USA elects a government half the country isn't happy with either, but nobody bats an eye. Many countries work like that, sadly.

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Ska don't read the mail, have no idea about Wales' effect exclusively. It will effect every UK tax payer as far as I can see. If all you can do is insult me who is right in this discussion?

Moros, yes I just wondered. With such a big issue though it may be slightly different though?

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Meh, if the UK starts acting sane again and both countries join Schengen it won't be all too different. Except that Scots will pay less tax and British more.

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Lol I mean in Scotland though. 49% (or something close) of scots will be in the wrong country.

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Arun is the reason I want Scotland to stay in the U.K ... otherwise when they go we lose 40odd sensible M.P's and are left with a higher proportion of Aruns :(

Many countries work like that, sadly.

Pff, Dutch people

Pff, Dutch people

Yay representative coalition government!

Ska, bullshit. Am I the only person who wants to stay financially secure?!

Going now will reply tomorrow assuming you have an answer.

I hope William Wallace's dream finally comes true forever this time.

The fact that you think the U.K will keep you financially secure proves by itself that you have no economic sense.

Look around you Arun. What makes you think that the U.K is a poster boy for economic security?

Please give me facts and figures if they are from the co-coalition especially, I could do with a chuckle :)

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if anything England would suffer form the loss of Scotland as they would lose the oil fields on the noth sea currently under the UK, that would become Scottish property

I'd certainly be less at risk without the threat of another bailing out hanging over Westminster's head!

Still no facts, still no figures, just you heard from the media cos Osborne said this might happen and you parrot it like a good little worker.

Facts? No, Figures? No, Just parrot what you heard. That's better than making sense anyway ... sigh

ps have you considered politics? You have the natural eel like quality of wriggling away from addressing any point anyone brings up ... you should give it a thought.

You'd be shit, but likely you'd persuade others like you, by refusing to answer any question that that was good sense, I think people think wriggling away from an answer is what makes a politician these days so give it ago :(

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Ska what figures have you given?? You're just attempting to make my arguement fail as yours is piss poor. Give me the figures that Scotland is economically sound! Even if you do get that, give me proof they will have stable currency! Scotland as a country is as uncertain as quantum physics and the risks are massive! Why change for the sake of change?

That is a lot of hyperbole.

These are some pretty Shite arguments..... :D

Arun just read this and think whether or not you can trust the opinion of a Nobel Price winning economist or the hot air receding from Osborne's ass? Of course Osborne and the rest of them are just saying things to keep the UK together at this point, but if you don't think that BOTH England and Scotland would suffer tremendously from not sharing the sterling, you need to do more studying at your university.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28929433

Also where are you coming up with that Scotland isn't economically sound? Scotland pays more in UK taxes than it receives in budget from the UK treasury! Scotland has done this for the past 30+ years. What does that tell you? If Scotland was the elephant in the room, costing the UK money, wouldn't they also be pushing for Scottish independence so the EU would deal with it?

Money aside (says the american to the welshman wtf!, should we switch passports?) even if Scotland hit a slight decline, it still wouldn't change the fact that Scotland could choose to keep NHS, free tuition, etc. etc.

With UK and Westminster becoming more and more conservative, I can really sympathize with the Scottish situation. I'm someone is off the charts left in US politics. My ideas that we should be taxed more (especially the rich who get off with not paying their share) and we should have free health care and education, is seen as crazy back in the states. Due to the two party system in the US and how very few other socialists there are in the US, my voice isn't heard in the states. Virtually the same situation that Scotland has been in, yet now they can vote to make their voice the only voice in their nation? Why wouldn't they want that?

Maybe it is hard for you to understand as you and many in the UK are fine with the privatization of health care, tax cuts to the rich, and all that other bullshit nonsense that the states has infected the UK with. Scotland does not want any of that. You can argue all you want about money, but at the end of the day this far more than just money.

don't tell him hes wrong, don't tell him hes wrong, don't tell him hes a socialist moron, don't, don't, don't.