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Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 03:12:25

Fizzer 
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Check out this post for the voting link and more info:

http://blog.warlight.net/index.php/2014/09/poll-for-changes-to-the-ladders/

You can use this thread to discuss!
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 05:05:28


master of desaster 
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i'm very excited! vote for final earth 2vs2 guys! :)

Edited 9/2/2014 08:25:24
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 05:05:53


NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex 
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Cast my vote, glad we (the players) are getting to weigh in on this!
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 05:07:53


Master Turtle 
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I would rather Szeuropa but since its not an option Heavy Earth would be really cool!
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 05:08:09

JSA 
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Yeah, cool idea fizzer. Thanks for doing this. What about a 3v3 ladder (I didn't see it mentioned)?
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 05:25:04


Cheery Dog
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New ladders apparently get polls later.

I think I went with don't know/don't care on too many things to be useful, but that's probably because I don't care about those things (for example i don't see myself using the RTL again.)
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 05:36:33


Krzysztof 
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nice:) hopefully results won't be flawed by guys with army of alts.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 06:13:35


[WM] Gnuffone 
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is nice yes.
some point:
-for seasonal ladder polls looks ok :)
-for the realtime ladder, polls are great!
-for 1v1 ladder, polls are more or less ok.
But for 2v2, why don't you put the most suggested template? the Eu template called Szeuropa? Most of us agree is the best, such a shame you don't want listen us.
Same for 3v3 eu ladder.

However i think the most imp0ortant thing is add template to vote, not just the map.
Often isn't the map the real problem, but most of the time is the template the most important thing:
i suggest for final earth template this: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=510403

Edited 9/2/2014 06:25:51
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 06:27:16


master of desaster 
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gnuff he already explained, that 1vs1 and 2vs2 ladder should stay an earth map. that's why you can't vote szeurope.

Edited 9/2/2014 06:27:52
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 06:46:22


Mirror 
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Require consecutive wins to achieve a rank
Right now, the ladders just require that you win X games to get a rank. Players have proposed using a system where those completed games must be consecutive, as a measure to fight intentional delays.

I don't understand this. You have to win games to get rank on ladder now? How much it is now?

Or it is typo and it should be finished games?
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 06:56:05


master of desaster 
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pretty sure it means finished games.
but the amount of games to get ranked depends for me on wheter it needs consecutive completed games or not.

Edited 9/2/2014 06:57:37
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 07:11:38


Mirror 
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OK. So consecutive probably means i have to complete first X games i have been assigned.

If this is the case i think it is OK rule and i agree with it.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 07:14:15


Pushover 
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Under current system, you could delay, say, your 14th and 15th games and finish your 16th and 17th to get the 15 game number and artificially inflate your rating temporarily. Then after you get your gold trophy you surrender 14th and 15th. Under the "consecutive games" system, no ranking would be bestowed until 1st-15th games finish, regardless of the results of 16th+ games.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 07:27:26


Mirror 
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Thanks Pushover for reply. I know that :)

Just that poll question is stated as

"
Require consecutive wins to achieve a rank
Right now, the ladders just require that you win X games to get a rank. Players have proposed using a system where those completed games must be consecutive, as a measure to fight intentional delays.

Keep it as it is -- you just have to win X total games.
Require that players win X consecutive games to achieve a rank
I don't know or don't care.
"

And this just confused me. If i missed something (and this is totally possible :) or what...

And i want to change to "consecutive games" system, but i don't want "Require that players win X consecutive games to achieve a rank" as is stated in poll.

Edited 9/2/2014 07:29:03
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 07:53:07


Latnox 
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I hope Final Earth will be voted over Heavy Earth.

Edited 9/2/2014 08:45:52
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:12:28


Darkpie 
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If/when changes to the ladders are implemented.. Will the ladders be reset?

It'd be kinda weird of they didn't if there are major changes like a change of map.

Edited 9/2/2014 08:15:29
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:15:27


[WM] Gnuffone 
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i think it's obvious. Most bc if the change are like to put TrueSkill, is not possible keep past record anyway.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:16:09


Darkpie 
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Yeah, I just want it confirmed.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:25:43


Latnox 
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Also some questions are conditional towards others. Like for example with current 1v1 ladder rating system I would like no. of games before being ranked to increase, but with true skill I would like it to decrease.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:34:24


master of desaster 
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best would be to make it in 2
steps. first decide the templates and rating systems, then decide how many consecutive games or how many games at all are necessary to get ranked. of course it's fizzers call, but it's difficult to vote if we don't know how one vote affects the other.

Edited 9/2/2014 08:36:20
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:41:02


Silver 
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Why can't both 1v1 and 2v2 ladders have various templates and maps used too? Much like RTL has.
Not many, maybe 3-4, but just to add some variety or it gets dull really fast.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:43:23


[WM] Gnuffone 
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it is a good idea, but only if only 1 and 1 are ME earth based. Otherwise is useless put 3/4 template all earth based..
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:48:53


Silver 
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1v1 could be fixed with 1v1 MME and with randomized bonuses.
No need to even rotate templates.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:49:21


Darkpie 
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+1000
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 08:55:35


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Voted :)

Hope the changes happen ASAP!
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 10:39:03


Timinator • apex 
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While reading, i stumbeled over a small issue:

Require consecutive wins to achieve a rank
Right now, the ladders just require that you win X games to get a rank. Players have proposed using a system where those completed games must be consecutive, as a measure to fight intentional delays.


It's not wins, it's finished games ?!
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 10:41:09


Mirror 
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Probably yes. But so far based on opinion of other players (see page one).

Best would be if Fizzer correct text in poll
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 10:49:16


The Great Pulsius 
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So one vote per player or one vote per ladder-eligible account??
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 11:01:26


Latnox 
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lol per player. Obviously.
Ladder polls are open!: 9/2/2014 11:25:25


Ace Windu 
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Could someone spell out exactly what the 0% and SR luck changes would do for the ladder?
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