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Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:23:49


καλλιστηι 
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Unlikely.
- downvoted post by Loxiiv
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:25:08


Kratt 
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No, probably not, but it's a great modern day David vs Goliath story though.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:31:54


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I really hope you win, Fizzer. That should only be fair. I do have a few questions though. I'm not sure whether you can go into them, as it's an ongoing lawsuit and everything, but when reading their filed lawsuit a few things seem weird.

First and foremost, they state this:

On November 20, 2020, Defendant’s counsel sent a “cease and desist”
letter to Activision’s counsel, demanding that Activision “change the name of its
games, stop using Warzone’s WARZONE mark, and abandon the trademark
applications.” Defendant also advised Activision that Defendant “would be within
its rights to seek to enjoin Activision from using the WARZONE mark and to
recover monetary relief as a result of Activision’s infringing use… [including]
Activision’s profits attributable to its use of the WARZONE mark in ‘Call of Duty:
Warzone’ or a reasonable royalty.” Activision disputes these allegations, and
expressed its position in a letter dated February 16, 2021.


They make it sound like you started this all, by sending a cease and desist letter. Now don't get me wrong, I'd have sent a ton of those already, but is this simply them trying to shift the blame to you, or is this the actual reason they're suing you?

Point 28 states that:

Defendant’s counsel also made a monetary
settlement demand and demanded a response to that demand by March 12, 2021.
On March 24, 2021, Activision made a counterproposal. On April 5, 2021,
Defendant rejected the counterproposal and did not offer to continue the
negotiations.


How fair was their counterproposal? I understand you won't give details into the numbers, but relatively speaking, what percentage of your demand did they offer as counterproposal? Or wasn't it monetary?

Activision respectfully requests that this Court enter
judgment in its favor and against Defendant:

(...) 3. Declaring that Activision’s use of the WARZONE or CALL OF
DUTY WARZONE Marks is not likely to cause, and has not caused, confusion,
mistake or deception as to the affiliation, connection, or association of Defendant
with Activision’s goods and services, or as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval
of Activision’s goods and services by Defendant

4. Declaring that Activision’s pending applications for registration of the
marks WARZONE and CALL OF DUTY WARZONE may proceed to
registration;

5. Declaring that Defendant’s pending applications for registration of the
mark WARZONE should not proceed to registration;

6. Ordering that Defendant, its officers, directors, employees, agents,
affiliates, attorneys, representatives, and licensees, be enjoined and permanently
restrained from interfering with Activision’s use and registration of the
WARZONE and CALL OF DUTY WARZONE marks(...)

7. Awarding Activision its reasonable attorney’s fees and costs; and

8. Granting Activision such other and further relief as the Court may
deem just and proper.

How angry were you when you read these absurdities?

Do you think Activision can get away with this? And do you think they have a chance at winning this lawsuit?
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:40:25


Quantum Entity
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I was wondering the same thing.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:48:37

Alsadius
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I finally decided to buy the supercamp for Idle, because it seemed like a better way of contributing than the GoFundMe. (No fees, and I get something for it that doesn't cost you anything to provide.)

That said, Farah seems to raise a good point. Did you kick the hornet's nest? Because your GoFundMe is predicated on them suing you, but the wording of it - and of Activision's lawsuit - makes it seem like you went after them. And while I understand that you don't want to give up your game's title to a giant company for nothing, they're not trying to get money out of you the way you suggest. They're just trying to get their game's IP protected from *your* lawsuits. I don't expect it to be an easy case for them, but this isn't a crazy suit. It's not like they're asking for monetary damages from you.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:49:53


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Ι am sure they would. In my opinion a monetary settlement is the only solution. Activision can bankrupt Fizzer with years of trials. And win is not that sure.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:56:17

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Defendant’s counsel sent a “cease and desist”
letter to Activision’s counsel, demanding that Activision “change the name of its
games, stop using Warzone’s WARZONE mark, and abandon the trademark
applications.”


That's a flat-out 100% lie. I never sent a cease and desist. Activision's entire lawsuit is absurd.

Edited 4/13/2021 16:06:05
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 14:59:28


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That's a flat-out 100% lie. I never sent a cease and desist or demand they change their name. Activision's entire lawsuit is absurd.


If this goes to court, Judges do NOT look upon fabrication of facts favorably.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:00:10


Farah♦ 
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That's a flat-out 100% lie. I never sent a cease and desist or demand they change their name. Activision's entire lawsuit is absurd.

Very good to hear. I'll be rooting for you from the sidelines!
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:00:11


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Ι am sure they would. In my opinion a monetary settlement is the only solution. Activision can bankrupt Fizzer with years of trials. And win is not that sure.


That's the biggest concern tbh, the typical Big Guy vs Small Guy lawsuit. All they need to do is keep the lawsuit ongoing to a point where it's an acceptable budget for them but a crippling one for Fizzer, and they never have to win the lawsuit, b/c it never gets to the point where a verdict is reached. Find some new evidence, some analysis that needs to be done, something to delay, push it out, but keep the lawyer fees accumulating and eventually there will always be a breaking point for the small guy.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:05:35


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On damages, I imagine warzone gets a lot of new players via word of mouth. That’s how I found the game. But now every single time I tell someone about warzone they get confused or at least bring up cod warzone and the conversation often gets sidetracked. It’s also harder to find warzone on google, the App Store, twitch. If you google warzone, it used to be that warzone was the top result, now I can’t even see it in the first 4 pages of the google search.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:06:52

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But now every single time I tell someone about warzone they get confused or at least bring up cod warzone and the conversation often gets sidetracked. It’s also harder to find warzone on google, the App Store, twitch. If you google warzone, it used to be that warzone was the top result, now I can’t even see it in the first 4 pages of the google search.

Exactly, this has been the biggest problem.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:07:37

Legolas
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The warzone category on twitch got hijacked too I think? I think that demonstrates the confusion aswell.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:07:52

Alsadius
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That's a flat-out 100% lie. I never sent a cease and desist or demand they change their name. Activision's entire lawsuit is absurd.

Hard to imagine a big company just straight-up fabricating like that. Their legal department will know the consequences of that, and BigCo legal departments are pretty conservative places.

You might want to make sure that your lawyer didn't write something like that into any of his paperwork.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:08:54


Quantum Entity
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Yep, otherwise they can flip it 180
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:09:42


John Zou
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Just made a small donation to help, we are with you Fizzer!
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:10:41

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https://segmentnext.com/2021/04/10/activision-warzone-com-trademark/
this site updated it but it's still wrong, WarLight in 2008, WarLight 2 in 2017 and Warzone idle in 2020 they say
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:10:56


Samek ●
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Jim Sterling needs to see this.
Activision is suing us!: 4/13/2021 15:16:42


Samek ●
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I went ahead and emailed Jim about this ridiculous situation and the GoFundMe link.
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