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Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:24:32


Kratt 
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Hello community, this is my vision of what the now defunct TCB should have been like as an alternative to CL.
The actual name is yet to be decided, name suggestions are welcome, this is just a thread to gauge if there is enough interest.

It will be hosted and updated by me and ideally it will be an ongoing inter clan event.

What's this about?
Every template used in this event is going to use two mods, randomized wastelands and randomized bonuses.
Most of them will probably be bastardizations of the MTL templates we all know and love.

Ideally I could sit down with a few better players and discuss what the pool of templates players can vote in could be in the future, but the voting part won't happen during the first season.

Besides the two mods, the universal settings for the first season are:
1 slot per player.
2 games at once.
A maximum of 10 clans per group.
A total of 7 different templates.
No subs.
Randomized Strat ME 1v1 is an eternal template.
Boot timer is 3 days with 5 days banked, vacations not honored.
The list goes on...


Now this all sounds great and all, but wait there's more!
Clans, as they compete against each other earn points to determine the final ranking on the leaderboard, initially the points are based on wins.
At the end of every season, clans can use the points they earned to change the universal settings or vote in new templates.
Of course settings will have different weight, activating honoring vacations costs obviously a lot more than voting on a new template.

This is still a work in progress I will reveal every detail if there is enough interest later this week.

Also...
AWAKEN!
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:38:54


Ursus 
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TSFH is interested
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:45:23


KaelF 
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Will this event use CLOT bots or any automation?
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:45:57


JK_3 
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TSFH is interested

What a surprise, i did not see that coming.... ;P

Like i just pointed out in global (posting it here in case people read this later):

Tournaments with mods can only be done as public tournaments, but Round Robin tournaments can only be done as private tournaments. This means that either the mods or the RR aspect can be kept.

Alternatively, you can use the CLOT to create a RR with mods, but that would limit the event to only.

Since there are 7 templates, and 1 slot per player, that would result in every clan needing to provide 7 players total right?

For now TLA would be interested in joining!

Edited 4/12/2021 20:46:12
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:50:32


Kratt 
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It could be done with either in double elimination tournaments or CLOT (which would limit it to players with membership).
I'd prefer the latter, but it will depend on what majority would prefer.

Depending on what way we go the universal settings will change, you guys didn't really think those were final, right? :P

If it's on CLOT I hope I'll get some help from B with it.
The key part of the whole thing is using last season scores to change the entire event for everyone next season.
Clans can deactivate the mods on season two if they wish to do so (and can afford it).

Randomized Strat ME is eternal because it's a hardcoded template.
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:53:12


καλλιστηι
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Will there be LD Siege?
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:55:35


Kratt 
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If your clan can afford to buy it in and it's in the pool of templates, I will not limit anything.
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:57:33


JK_3 
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So how much points will a win get you? Are all the templates 1v1 btw or will the be teams? And if there are teams, do team games give more points?

Could you give a rough idea of how expensive changing templates will be? What if I wanted to set the base income to 0 for example?
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:58:54


Kratt 
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And yes JK, first season is 1 slot per player so every clan would need 7.

But no one says you can't buy an extra slot (which would apply for every clan) for season 2 if you can afford it. :P
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 20:59:42


Ralph 
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How does changing a template cost money?
Is this yet another one of Arrows business ventures?
Was Kratt secretly Arrow all along?
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:01:15


Kratt 
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A win is 1 point.
First season only has 1v1s.

There will be options to give templates more weight in the future (for example, Randomized Strat ME win to be worth 2 points etc).

The chaotic part will be every clan using their points, so NO clan will probably ever get exactly what they want.
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:35:34


Farah♦ 
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Organizing a competition where not every clan gets what they want? Blasphemy!

Anyways, what does TCB stand for? Also, I think you might have more success starting the competition with smaller groups. That way you can have some divisions, making the competitive aspect better. Max 10 per group is something not even Clan League does per division, and getting clans up to commit to a competition like this is a rather tough task. I'd make the groups about the size of 3 and randomize the groups for the first season. Then you make divisions of the top clans out of every group, the second clan of every group and the last clan of every group for the next season. Just some random thoughts though, good luck!
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:43:26


KaelF 
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TCB stands for The Clan Bowl
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:44:37


Ursus 
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Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:46:21


Kratt 
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The Clan Bowl, but this is not in any way related to that event.
I was there when it was made and had that idea back then, but had little faith in the host so never suggested it.

Group sizes, cost of changing "universal" and specific template settings, everything really, is what clans can manipulate with if they can afford it. Of course there's also the expensive "restore to default" option.
It's meant to be a competition where clans would need to adapt to what other clans want.

To be honest, I do not expect more than 5 clans to join the first season anyway.
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:50:58


Kratt 
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The initial season needs to stand out from other competitions hence the forced 2 mods, otherwise it's very generic.
In the end it's the option to change settings with the points gained that makes it different from the rest.

Also, as a side note, the one eternal template (Randomized Strat ME) can't be manipulated.
But it can be replaced with another eternal template (which again, can't be manipulated with).

I'll write a long post to introduce everything available later this week. :)
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:53:56


KaelF 
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Team Chat will allowed on all templates?
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 21:54:56


Kratt 
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Yes, even 1v1s. Another thing that can be changed for the right price.

As I said the event is almost fully customizable by the clans that play in it!
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome!: 4/12/2021 23:54:46


{TLA} LND
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Now this all sounds great and all
No it doesn't.
For now TLA would be interested in joining!
Would we though?

Anyway, interesting idea Kratt, I'm not sure that I like it (sounds very, very messy) but I'll be interested to see how it works out!

Edited 4/12/2021 23:56:00
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