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Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 19:35:34


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 19:35:55


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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Concept

The Promotion/Relegation League is a seasonal group of round-robin Warlight tournaments, always on the classic “strategic middle earth” map and settings. Players are grouped into small groups (7 on average). At the end of each season, the top players of each group are promoted to the next group above. Bottom players are relegated to the next group below. Middle players remain in the same group.

The league is meant to appeal to players who want to see, over the course of several seasons, where their natural level of competition might take them. For new, skilled participants, this means patience in getting to the levels where they will be challenged. Hopefully, that is part of the fun. The idea is to see how quickly you can progress, how long you can stay high, or how long it takes to stop a skid.

Rules

The league is run with a balance of predictability and flexibility. Final decisions are made by the league administrator with an attempt to consider input of league players.

Currently, the model is to typically have the top two promote and the bottom two relegate but there are exceptions. Where there is default – a player becoming inactive or asking to bow out of the league – there can be more promotions to fill in the vacancy. Where this happens in several groups there can be a lot of shuffling. The principle, though, is to usually have at least one player from each group relegated. Several retirements mean fewer relegations and more super-promotions to keep the groups filled.

Any player inactive in the last three games of any tournament is deemed to be out of the league and can only return as a new player in an expansion or bottom group.

Placements in a round-robin are determined by number of wins. In the event of a tie, placements are determined by head-to-head results among the tied. Occasionally, there are loops of ties that cannot be resolved by the head-to-head rule. A tie-breaking tournament then takes place unless all the players involved agree to otherwise settle the tie. Where a tie-breaking tournament would delay the league too much, average turn-speed is rewarded to resolve such ties.

Anyone can join the league, members and non-members alike, simply by request in the most recent “Promotion/Relegation League” forum thread. New players begin in the bottom group or in an expansion group. Promotions from expansion groups depend on numbers within the new groups.

Before the beginning of each season, a summary of the movements will be announced to allow for questions or corrections. The league works most smoothly if those who wish to bow out of it let the administrator know before the new season begins instead of simply declining to play after the groups have been determined and tournaments begun.

The history of the last season can be reviewed from links in the season 13 thread:

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=42039
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 19:36:51


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 19:38:43


The National Socialist
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I'd like to join, if possible :)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 19:41:39


Pushover 
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*Gives Frank a cookie*
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 20:15:25


Bananashake 
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*Taking Franks cookie, and runs like hell*
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 20:23:48


Pushover 
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You aren't even in this league! You left!!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 20:34:38


his balls. 
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Nice one frank. I'm sure I'm in this somewhere but if not please add me.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 20:59:25


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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You are in group C, check your invites. :)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 21:28:52


Master Turtle 
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Thanks Frank ;)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/30/2014 21:57:49


Ineffable 
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Big big thanks to Pushover and Frankdeslimste
and historical credit to Chokecherry
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/31/2014 02:46:16


Tac(ky)tical
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Not entirely sure if I'm in (No computer available for a few days), if not could you add me?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/31/2014 03:26:47


Cheery Dog
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Was not expecting to jump up into Group G. (I tohught H was possible, but I guess G does work when J didn't make a return.

Is there a list of who was promoted and relegated (and left the league) for each of the groups from last season?

Edited 8/31/2014 03:27:15
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/31/2014 05:28:44


Pushover 
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I'll avoid the 3 I groups cause they kinda got messy but here are the others. I came up with these groups, Frank ratified them, and also gave input where a tough promotion/relegation decision was needed.

GROUP A
grona (from A)
Old Surehand (from A)
Widzisz (from A)
Miyagi (from A)
Ineffable (from A)
Frankdeslimste (from B)
timon92 (from B)

GROUP B
Tenshi (from A)
marc2013 (from A)
Hey heuhei (from B)
Mirror (from B)
Niko (from C)
Pushover (from C)
Krzychu (from D)

GROUP C
Longhouse (from B)
FlyingBender (from C)
Dutch Desire (from C)
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello (from C)
Master Ree (from D)
Metatron (from D)
JV (from E)

GROUP D
ferede (from C)
Riyamitie (from D)
wakanarai (from D)
Andersault (from D)
Timinator (from E)
tartan1314 (from E)
Falker (from F)

GROUP E
Saru (from D)
Apollo (from E)
querulant (from F)
Garrett (from F)
kevin#1 (from F)
Lolowut (from G)
Jefferspin (from G)

GROUP F
Min34 (from E)
Mycroft (from G)
Beren Erchamion (from G)
master of desaster (from H)
The Swimming Potato (from H)
Bjarke (from H)
rocky1 (from I)

GROUP G
bobbob000 (from F)
Bigchps147 (from H)
125ch209 (from I)
JSA (from J1)
Cheery Dog (from J1)
Charlie Brown (from J2)
dwoogee (from J2)

GROUP H
GeneralGror (from G)
offpools (from H)
ARand0mPlayer (from I)
Darkpie (from J1)
Kasparov (from J1)
Vortex (from J1)
The Turtle (from J2)

You'll have to piece together who left the league on your own, I sorta deleted that information :P

If you were promoted higher than you thought you would, it's typically because of dropouts. Particularly in the case of last season a lot of players did not join their tournies, leaving groups of 6, 5, or even 4 players. So making groups of 7 means having to super-promote a lot of lower tier players. Promotions after a meh season are much more likely for lower groups than higher groups.

In making these groups Frank and I tried to have at least one player relegate, and prioritize a 1st place super-promotion over a 3rd place promotion (explaining why Krzychu got promoted to B over FlyingBender).

Cheery Dog, in the original draft, I did have you in group H rather than G. But NoobSchool and Slammy dropping out created a domino effect which bumped you up an extra group.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/31/2014 08:35:12


Polakillo
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I'd like to join, is it possible?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 8/31/2014 09:27:54


Pushover 
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I'd like to join, is it possible?


http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=11640

ಠ_ಠ
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/2/2014 10:12:15


۞RoastedChicken۞
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erm hey, me too please.

Edited 9/2/2014 10:12:26
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/2/2014 16:41:35


ChrisCMU 
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if you need another to round out the group I will join back up. I think I got to B last time, but got too busy. Will be fun to battle my way back up.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/3/2014 04:25:30


Pushover 
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From the looks of it there are plenty of n00b spots left... I wonder if Frank will end up remaking the I groups cause of all the shmucks who aren't bothering to join up!!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/4/2014 02:57:35


ChristophU
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I would like to join in the worst group possible, is there a Z group? :)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/11/2014 16:39:38


Chokecherry 
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Hi folks. Just checking in after all these months to say how satisfying it is to see this is still interesting to enough people. Congrat's to Frank and Pushover!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/12/2014 07:01:07


Pushover 
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What you started is the best league on warlight, no way we'd let it die! XD
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/12/2014 11:35:56


ChrisCMU 
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Any word on remaking groups?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/13/2014 17:25:57


Pushover 
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I've been prodding Frank about it, I guess I can keep doing so ^^; The I groups I think should be remade, either that or Frank and I message people who haven't joined their tournaments.

I truly can not understand people who ignore the big annoying message on their games page that tells them they are invited to tournaments...
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/13/2014 18:50:36


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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I already send messages to everyone a few days ago. As of now I'm going to make 2 group I's.

Edited 9/13/2014 18:55:41
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/26/2014 09:05:43


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To keep this thread alive, I thought I might be fun to post some premature updates on the league!

GROUP A
Miyagi (4-0)
Frankdeslimste (3-0)
grona (3-2)
timon92 (0-0)
Ineffable (1-2)
Widzisz (1-4)
Old Surehand (0-4)

BFFs Miyagi and Frank set to fight for the title, but timon is a wildcard.

GROUP B
Krzychu (4-0)
Tenshi (2-1)
marc2013 (1-1)
Pushover (1-1)
Heyheuhei (0-0)
Mirror (0-1)
Niko (0-4)

Krzychu with a commanding lead, but a lot can still happen in this group.

GROUP C
FlyingBender (2-1)
Metatron (1-0)
JV (1-0)
Marechal Lannes (2-2)
his balls (1-2)
Orange (0-2)

This looks like it'll be a tough group. Still too early to tell.

GROUP D
tartan1314 (5-0)
wakaranai (2-3)
Falker (2-2)
Andersault (1-1)
Timinator (1-2)
Riyamitie (0-1)
ferede (0-2)

A really impressive showing from tartan! His only threat is Riyamitie, who would need to win all remaining games to win the group

GROUP E
Jefferspin (3-0)
querulant (1-0)
Apollo (1-1)
kevin#1 (0-1)
Lolowut (0-3)

Ugh, this is the dead group. Two players failed to join, and a third (Lolowut) is booting from all games.

GROUP F
rocky1 (2-1)
Min34 (1-0)
Bjarke (2-2)
master of desaster (1-1)
Beren Erchamion (1-2)
Mycroft (0-1)

A competetive group so far

GROUP G
Bigchps147 (4-0)
dwoogee (3-1)
JSA (1-2)
bobbob000 (1-2)
CheeryDog (0-2)
CharlieBrown (0-2)

The top 3 are very likely to stay that way due to head to head. CharlieBrown is inactive.

GROUP H
Darkpie (2-0)
GeneralGror (2-0)
Kasparov (2-1)
The Turtle (1-2)
ARand0mPlayer (0-2)
Vortex (0-2)

Another close group

GROUP I1
aper (3-0)
Jackie Treehorn (1-0)
Polakillo (1-1)
TheJakiller (1-1)
HeadlessChicken (1-1)
smileyleg (2-3)
Lawlz (0-3)

It's still early, but aper is sitting pretty in the group

GROUP I2 - still not active yet
BlacKnight
ChrisCMU
ChristophU
Master ARC
Master Atom
Silver
Weisblutt
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/26/2014 15:19:00


ChrisCMU 
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Our group has all joined but Frank has not started the tournament. I have sent him mail and PM's
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 9/27/2014 01:59:38


Pushover 
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He's aware of the issue, problem is he's only got his phone on him lately >.>
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 10/8/2014 03:42:42


Cheery Dog
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I see E has finished.

The only other one that got my attention (because I'm in it) is that 3rd place in G will belong to the winner of me vs bobbob.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 14: 10/8/2014 04:53:49


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Great idea Mister Dog, I think it's time for an update!!

GROUP A
Frankdeslimste (3-0)
Miyagi (4-1)
grona (4-2)
Ineffable (2-2)
timon92 (1-2)
Widzisz (1-4)
Old Surehand (0-4)

Not much has changed since last update. The Frank/Miyagi game could be huge, with the winner poised to take the group. Widzisz and Old Surehand are likely to relegate.

GROUP B
Krzychu (4-0)
Tenshi (3-1)
marc2013 (2-2)
Pushover (2-2)
Heyheuhei (0-0)
Mirror (0-2)
Niko (0-4)

Again not much changing due to Mirror and I being slow and Heyheuhei being on perpetual vacation. His status *says* he will be back on Oct 12, practically a month and a half after this season started. C'mon HHH. :/

Excepting HHH, the head-to-head pretty much mirrors the current standings. Niko pretty much needs to win all final games to prevent relegation.

GROUP C
FlyingBender (3-1)
Metatron (2-1)
JV (2-1)
Marechal Lannes (2-3)
Orange (1-2)
his balls (1-3)

Oh great, Flying is totally gonna win this group and kick my ass next season in group B XD. At least if he wins his final game against JV that is. I definitely didn't expect Orange (Dutch Desire) and his balls (Featherbucket/Longhouse) to be the ones threatening to relegate.

GROUP D
tartan1314 (5-0)
Falker (3-2)
wakaranai (3-3)
Andersault (2-2)
Timinator (1-2)
Riyamitie (0-1)
ferede (0-4)

Poor ferede ended up the group's punching bag. Otherwise, we're still waiting for tartan to clinch the group win vs Riyamitie

GROUP E - FINISHED
Jefferspin (4-0) - WINNER
kevin#1 (3-1)
Apollo (2-2) - Leaving the League
querulant (1-3) - Inactive
Lolowut (0-4) - Inactive

There were only 3 active players in this group. Yikes. Jefferspin effectively wins the 3 player tournament. Expect a large number of super-promotions for the lower groups.

GROUP F
master of desaster (4-1) - WINNER
Beren Erchamion (2-2)
Bjarke (2-2)
rocky1 (2-3)
Min34 (1-2)
Mycroft (1-2)

Master of Desaster has clinched the group win, while the rest of the group fights for scraps. This turned out to be a very tough group!

GROUP G
Bigchps147 (4-1) - WINNER
dwoogee (4-1)
bobbob000 (2-2)
CheeryDog (2-2)
JSA (1-3) - Leaving the league
CharlieBrown (0-4) - Inactive

Bigshps147, having won the tiebreaker, wins the group! The winner between Cheery Dog and bob snags 3rd. Based on JSA's performance, particularly his perplexing surrender against bob, I would assume he's quitting the league.

GROUP H
GeneralGror (4-0) - WINNER
Darkpie (4-1)
ARand0mPlayer (2-2)
Kasparov (2-3)
The Turtle (2-3)
Vortex (0-5)

Congrats to Gror for winning the group following relegation the prior season! (Which may not say much given that this is the lowest non-newbie group >.>) The final game between Gror and ARand0mPlayer only matters for the latter player: a win means 3rd place, while a loss means a 3-way tie for 3rd place.

GROUP I1
Jackie Treehorn (5-1) - WINNER
aper (4-2)
HeadlessChicken (4-2)
Polakillo (3-2)
smileyleg (3-3)
TheJakiller (1-4)
The National Socialist (Lawlz) (0-6)

Congrats to Jackie Treehorn, king of the first n00b group! If Polakillo wins his final game against The Jakiller, then this group will finish with a 3 way tie for 2nd place. If Polakillo loses, then the final group standings will end just as displayed.

GROUP I2
ChristophU (2-1)
ChrisCMU (2-1)
Master ARC (2-1)
Master Atom (2-2)
Silver (1-1)
BlacKnight (1-2)
Weisblutt (0-2)

Finally Frank was able to get to a PC and start group I2! Plenty can still happen in this group, but here's a surprising result: ChristophU has won the battle of Chrises!

Edited 10/10/2014 08:54:52
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