I'll bring this up to Frank, but what's to say he won't do the same thing next season? Then we're back where we started with a 6 player group. I'd much prefer he becomes active this season and finishes his games.

IMO perpetuating inactivity through vacations - HHH has seriously been on vacation more often than not this season - is something that should be discouraged not encouraged. If you don't have time to play you should drop out like everyone else.

Edited 11/6/2014 07:08:15

I'm in next season too.

I´d like to participate too :)

The trouble is you make people start over. I got busy, dropped out and had to start at the bottom. If you allowed a vacation from the league it would be better

Maybe for every season you miss, you get relegated one level?

Any player inactive in the last three games of any tournament is deemed to be out of the league and can only return as a new player in an expansion or bottom group.

For now this rule applies. This means Old Surehand must start at the bottom, and HHH still has a chance to show he's active. Though HHH just booted from 2 games so chances look pretty slim.

Any rule changes would have to be made starting next season. However, there would have to be more than one player interested in changing a rule for there to be a chance of it being changed... and managing inactive players seems like a lot more trouble than it's worth.

My personal opinion: The current rules reward activity and punish inactivity. I see no reason to change them.

Chris:

I know it sucks that you have to start over, but it's the most fair thing to do. When people leave people get super-promoted to fill slots. I can't just demote extra people just because someone wants his slot back a few seasons later. And we can't always count on enough people leaving, so having to join the lower group again seems like the best way to go to me.

I wasn't complaining about myself. I am just warning that if you punish those taking a vacation it will be VERY harsh since we do start over at bottom.

Personally I don't mind a vacation (they are allowed in the tournament settings). But HHH is kinda pushing it with his multiple vacations.

"Any player inactive in the last three games of any tournament is deemed to be out of the league and can only return as a new player in an expansion or bottom group."
I went to see my last 3 games: vs Master Miyagi i was booted after 3 turns
vs Ineffable i surrendered after 11 turns
vs Timon i was booted
I have not been inactive the last three games!

You're right Surehand, I didn't count the order of boots. And the 2 games you did play were played to completion. So technically you're still active. Thanks for replying to the thread.

Are multiple vacations considered inactive? Like I said, it sucks for the league, but what would you have HHH do? Quit the league and start over in a month when he's no longer busy with life? Either allow vacations and wait, or simply don't count his games and consider him neither promoted or relegated for next season.

You could easily have a rule that if you have 2+ weeks of warlight vacation during the season, you simply ignore those games and consider their record 0-0 for the season.

No reason to punish him and also no reason to hold the league hostage. Just auto skip the games and move on.

Edited 11/10/2014 20:29:09

The only thing considered inactive according to current rules is 3 boots at the end of the season (or, unofficially, when the player stops playing and we think they will have a high probability of booting next season... Old Surehand's reply to the thread was good enough to convince me he's not inactive). All HHH has to do is play his games.

Like I said, it sucks for the league, but what would you have HHH do?

Drop out of leagues he can't play, like plenty of players do in this league each season.

In the end Frank runs the league, and he will make decisions to keep the league running as smoothly as he can.

Edited 11/11/2014 05:17:43

i'd like to drop out of the league, gonna take a break from warlight for few months at least

An update...

GROUP A - FINISHED
Frankdeslimste (4-2, 2-2) - unbreakable tie
Miyagi (4-2, 2-2) - unbreakable tie
grona (4-2, 2-2) - unbreakable tie
Ineffable (4-2, 2-2) - unbreakable tie
timon92 (4-2, 2-2) - unbreakable tie
Widzisz (1-5) - Inactive
Old Surehand (0-6)

GROUP B
Tenshi (5-1)
Krzychu (4-1)
Mirror (3-3)
marc2013 (3-3) - leaving warlight
Pushover (2-3)
Heyheuhei (1-2)
Niko (0-5)

HHH has booted from 2 games and has 3 remaining. He is now officially holding up the league, as all other games have finished.

GROUP C - FINISHED
FlyingBender (4-1) - WINNER
Orange (3-2, 1-0)
Metatron (3-2, 0-1)
JV (2-3, 1-0)
Marechal Lannes (2-3, 0-1)
his balls (1-4)

GROUP D - FINISHED
tartan1314 (6-0) - WINNER
Timinator (4-2)
Falker (4-2)
wakaranai (3-3) - Leaving the league
Andersault (2-4)
ferede (1-5)
Riyamitie (1-5)

Timinator beats ferede to snag 2nd place.

GROUP E - FINISHED
Jefferspin (4-0) - WINNER
kevin#1 (3-1)
Apollo (2-2) - Leaving the League
querulant (1-3) - Inactive
Lolowut (0-4) - Inactive

GROUP F - FINISHED
master of desaster (4-1) - WINNER
Beren Erchamion (3-2, 1-0)
Bjarke (3-2, 0-1)
Min34 (2-3) - Leaving the League
rocky1 (2-3)
Mycroft (1-4)

Min34 beats Mycroft

GROUP G - FINISHED
Bigchps147 (4-1, 1-0) - WINNER
dwoogee (4-1, 0-1)
bobbob000 (3-2)
JSA (2-3, 1-0) - Leaving the league
CheeryDog (2-3, 0-1)
CharlieBrown (0-5) - Inactive

GROUP H - FINISHED
GeneralGror (5-0) - WINNER
Darkpie (4-1)
ARand0mPlayer (2-3, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
Kasparov (2-3, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
The Turtle (2-3, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
Vortex (0-5)

GROUP I1 - FINISHED
Jackie Treehorn (5-1) - WINNER
HeadlessChicken (4-2, 1-1, 14) - Leaving the League
Polakillo (4-2, 1-1, 18, 1-0)
aper (4-2, 1-1, 18, 0-1)
smileyleg (3-3)
TheJakiller (1-5)
The National Socialist (Lawlz) (0-6)

GROUP I2 - FINISHED
Master ARC (5-1) - WINNER
ChrisCMU (4-2, 1-0)
Master Atom (4-2, 0-1)
BlacKnight (3-3, 1-0)
ChristophU (3-3, 0-1)
Silver (2-4)
Weisblutt (0-6) - Inactive

New for next season:
ps
Master of the Dead
Master Adrianokx
Verzehrer
Don [ Ω ]
Roooob
sobedai
_Revealed_

Edited 11/18/2014 02:30:58

I apologize for not creating tiebreaker tournies, which wouldn't necessarily be counted but could be fun regardless. I'll chalk up the reason to "nebulous real life things" and leave it at that.

Pushover,

My previous name was Deadman and I have changed it. Just a heads up, so you invite the right person when you create the tournament.

And on that note, when will the next season begin?

Sorting out promotions will be rough with all that turnover. I think you might have to go down to 6 player divisions because otherwise people that had losing records will be getting super-promotions (up two divisions). Here is my stab at it:

GROUP A
Frankdeslimste
Miyagi
grona
Ineffable
timon92
Tenshi


GROUP B
Krzychu
Old Surehand
Mirror
Pushover
FlyingBender
Orange


GROUP C
Metatron
Niko
JV
tartan1314
Timinator
Falker


GROUP D
Marechal Lannes
his balls
Andersault
Jefferspin
kevin#1
master of desaster


GROUP E
ferede
Riyamitie
Beren Erchamion
Bjarke
Bigchps147
dwoogee


GROUP F
bobbob000
rocky1
Mycroft
CheeryDog
GeneralGror
Darkpie

GROUP G
ARand0mPlayer
Kasparov
The Turtle
Jackie Treehorn
Master ARC
Polakillo/aper/ChrisCMU

GROUP H
Polakillo/aper/ChrisCMU
Polakillo/aper/ChrisCMU
Master Atom
BlacKnight
ChristophU
smileyleg

GROUP I
Vortex
TheJakiller
The National Socialist (Lawlz)
Silver

GROUP J
ps
Deadman
Master Adrianokx
Verzehrer
Don [ Ω ]
Roooob

The only drawback is that Krzychu deserves a promotion to A. There is also an issue with Polakillo/aper/ChrisCMU as an unbreakable tie (who to super promote). You could have some that are 7 and some 6 to get rid of I.

Edited 11/12/2014 16:37:52

This would be the alternative (with some 7, some 6):

GROUP A
Frankdeslimste
Miyagi
grona
Ineffable
timon92
Tenshi
Krzychu

GROUP B
Old Surehand
Mirror
Pushover
FlyingBender
Orange
Metatron
tartan1314

GROUP C
Niko
JV
Timinator
Falker
Jefferspin
Andersault

GROUP D
Marechal Lannes
his balls
kevin#1
master of desaster
Beren Erchamion
Bjarke

GROUP E
ferede
Riyamitie
Bigchps147
dwoogee
bobbob000
rocky1

GROUP F
CheeryDog
Mycroft
GeneralGror
Darkpie
ARand0mPlayer
Kasparov
The Turtle

GROUP G
Jackie Treehorn
Master ARC
Polakillo
aper
ChrisCMU
Master Atom

GROUP H
BlacKnight
ChristophU
smileyleg
Vortex
TheJakiller
The National Socialist (Lawlz)
Silver

GROUP I
ps
Deadman
Master Adrianokx
Verzehrer
Don [ Ω ]
Roooob

this is what i would say (kept HHH in since i was not sure what to do with him) so if is out i'd say just leave group B with 6 next season

Group A:
Frank
Miyagi
Grona
Ineffable
Timon92
Tenshi (promotion)
Krzychu (promotion)

Group B:
Old surehand (relegation)
Mirror
Pushover
HHH?
Flyingbender (promotion)
Orange (promotion)
Tartan1314 (super-promotion)

Group C:
Niko (relegation)
Metatron
JV
Marechal Lannes
Timinator (promotion)
Falker (promotion)
Jefferspin (super-promotion)

Group D:
His balls (relegation)
Andersault
Ferede
Kevin#1 (promotion)
MoD (super-promotion)
Beren (super-promotion)

Group E:
Riyamitie (relegation)
Bjarke (promotion)
Rocky1 (promotion)
Bigchps147 (super-promotion)
Dwoogee (super-promotion)
GeneralGror (hyper-promotion)

Group F:
Mycroft (stays since so many left above)
Bobbob000 (promotion)
CheeryDog (promotion)
Darkpie (super-promotion)
Random/kasp/turtle (super-promotion)
Jackie Treehorn (hyper-promotion i1)
Master ARC (hyper-promotion i2)

Group G:
Random/kasp/turtle (promotion)
Random/kasp/turtle (promotion)
Polakillo (super-promotion i1)
Aper (super-promotion i1)
ChrisCMU (super-promotion i2)
Master Atom (super-promotion i2)

Group H:
Smileyleg (promotion i1)
TheJakiller (promotion i1)
National socialist (promotion i1)
BlacKnight (promotion i2)
ChristophU (promotion i2)
Silver (promotion i2)

Group I (1?):
Ps
Deadman (master of the dead)
Adrianokx
Verzehrer
Don
Roooob