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Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 01:31:37


Arrow838™ 
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Requirements:
🎡 Low Boot Rate
🎡 Active once a month
🎡 Be level 40+
🎡 Be nice in clan chat, Discord, and forum
🎡 Must not be an alt
🎡 MUST PARTICIPATE IN CLAN WARS

Anyone who fails to meet these requirements may be kicked!


Membership Perks:
🎉 Active Discord server
🎉 Frequent clan events
🎉 Friendly and helpful community
🎉 Strategic training & growth
🎉 Private coin tournaments
🎉 Training Tournaments


Anyone who fulfills all these requirements to mail me/any other member
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 14:43:11


KiRByTheAverage
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Fun clan, lots of tournaments and good people.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 15:04:10


Five Finger Death Punch
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Said no-one ever...
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 15:13:57


Rick Sanchez 
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I did not want to make this but F it,

Lets talk about the Membership Perks:
1. Active Discord server - Its dead, its literally dead. You hardly have any people in it and what in the world do people do on a wz discord server. The only discord servers active in the entirety of warzone are the ones of big clans, or community servers like chill zone or the public chat.

2. Frequent clan events - Another lie, you guys don't have any relegation league, any proper structure for events or a strong enough management to make them happen.

3. Friendly and helpful community - how can a community be friendly if: a) people literally don't talk.
b) the clan leader is hated by half of warzone till now for allegedly scamming them by misleading them into coin games.

4. Strategic training & growth - YOU PLAY SE, do you hear me, SE - Small earth. you suck at other templates. I don't know who else in your clan provides training and if you guys have any guides.videos made.

5. Private coin tournaments - YOU STEAL COINS FROM YOUR OWN MEMBERS FFS, people are more likely to lose coins then gain them if they join excel.

6.Training Tournaments - A normal tournament does not automatically qualify as a training tournament. Likewise a qm game is also a training game.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 16:20:45


krinid 
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Ouch. Scathing.

But wait ... is this actually true? 1-4+6, sure, I can see that. But #5? Really?

5. Private coin tournaments - YOU STEAL COINS FROM YOUR OWN MEMBERS FFS, people are more likely to lose coins then gain them if they join excel.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 16:27:58


Five Finger Death Punch
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Do you get invited to many parties Rick?
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 16:34:25

gollem
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Scam clan according to many..just a thought to the noobs.. lol
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 16:55:32


JK_3 
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I left Excel a while ago, so i cannot comment on the current state of it. The Discord is dead however, like so dead it makes Fahrenheits discord looks active
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 16:57:51

gollem
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Trust Bob..he's not lying above.. just saying.. lol
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 16:58:33


Kratt 
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I left Excel a while ago, so i cannot comment on the current state of it. The Discord is dead however, like so dead it makes Fahrenheits discord looks active

Explain it to me in freedom units.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 17:05:11


Athena's Child 
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I was in Excel with one of my alts, and I will tell you what is going on.
Note that this post have no intent to take down any particular parties, I hope it could be used as a critique that can be used to improve the clan.


2. As Rick said, more systematic clan events such as clan ladder or PRL would be appreciated, compared to the current ranking by title, with a title change for every clan war. On the long run, this system will be tiresome.

3. Could be more lively, but understandable remembering how new Excel is.

4. Maybe add a system where training is more emphasized?

5. The coin tournament are much appreciated, even for 8 coins. I will not accuse any Excel members of any scam.

6. Excel do have private training tournaments, but some of the template are questionable.

I hope you could make the clan better!
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 17:15:47


Auki 
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Don't join this clan!!!! Clan leader Arrow is a scammer and got reported not only once!!!
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 17:48:02


krinid 
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HAHA, that's saying a lot.
The Discord is dead however, like so dead it makes Fahrenheits discord looks active


Not specific to Excel but new clans in general ... is it even likely to have a lively, active clan chat with max 40 members? Yes, it's certainly possible, but unless you happen to have 40 lively, active members, not likely to have a useful clan chat. In clans with 80+ members, it's more likely to have a handful of active members than one with a max of 40.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 18:05:16


⚙️t⚙️m⚙️t⚙️n
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Yeah if you're looking for a clan to ̶e̶x̶c̶e̶l̶ grow in with the aim of eventually becoming a competitively-viable strategic player, there's a few things to look for:

1. Does this clan have active events where you can play on strategic settings against players who are at least slightly above your skill level?
2. Does this clan have guides or other resources on the forum or elsewhere (or just knowledge of external resources they can point you to) that will help you learn the game mechanics and tactics?
3. Does this clan have mentors or invested players who are available and willing to play with you, advise you, and train you?
4. Does this clan have game analysis going on somewhere? It might be in a forum thread where people post games, in chat, on Discord, anywhere. But a clan that regularly analyzes games or at least discusses winning/losing tactics and strategies in finished games has a good chance of being a healthy strategic environment that helps you learn from concrete results.

I have not been in Excel so I cannot attest to the answers, but these are the four questions I suggest newbies ask themselves before joining a clan like Excel that promises a growth environment. Another proxy you can look at is whether the clan has any players that rapidly improved recently (for examples of rapidly improved players, look for players with good ladder ratings and high recent winrates that indicate they were/are underrated; see Shredtail in MASTER from 2017-2020 - http://md-ladder.cloudapp.net/player?playerId=4018123716, _ in 101st from 2017-2020 - https://www.warzone.com/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=342, Ursus in TSFH during 2020 - http://md-ladder.cloudapp.net/player?playerId=3367992188, and more modestly Gus in Discovery in 2021 - https://www.warzone.com/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=26835).

My expectation based on chance encounters with Excel players and asking them about the clan is that Excel meets criterion 1 narrowly (coin tourneys on a mix of strategic and unstrategic templates) but fails 2, 3, and 4.

Best of luck finding a clan to grow in! Be careful as you search for a growth/training clan because almost every clan with strategic ambition will advertise itself that way (to get members) but most do not actually make the cut.

Edited 4/1/2021 19:56:06
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 18:05:23

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no arrow
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 18:10:51

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Jk_3 i haven been to excel discord but it makes my discord clan look like a thriving city
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:38:04


Kratt 
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I think Excel has potential.
Ask me why.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:39:27


l4v.r0v 
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Why, Kratt? Why vaguepost on a thread? Isn't spamming on the forum against our clan rules?
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:39:37


krinid 
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Why?
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:43:10


Rick Sanchez 
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sorry for what I created arrow, I did not expect this to blow up. this is the most infamous clan recruitment post ever.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:44:11


Ocean0.1 
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I’m enjoying this, any links on Arrow scamming his clan members?
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:46:10


Rick Sanchez 
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also knyte you used the wrong link for gus I think, it goes to another player. the correct link is https://www.warzone.com/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=26835
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:48:55


Kratt 
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Is not spam, is good drama. Also figured maybe no one cares.

I think a clans success (whatever that means really depends on the person) depends mostly on the leaders (or councils) activity and drive to keep going (I know right, so obvious).
He doesn't have to lead by example, just needs to nourish and grow the community, others will step up.

Arrow has a ton of activity and is eager, the problematic part is that when he dips he dips hard and when he is driven again he has to waste time and energy on building back up what he broke.
He needs a council that cuts him off when he starts dipping again.

He is also extremely selfish in the ways that have been described earlier in the thread, which isn't really a great start, but sheer activity and drive (he has said it to me that he is eager to prove everyone wrong, then again he has said a lot of things) can still get the clan pretty far.

He just needs to drop the desperate strategic goal he has and be more casual about it.
Just my take on it.

EDIT:
Personally I think the more successful clans we have the better and more exciting the community of this game will be.
That's my selfish reason to hope for Excel to do well.

Edited 4/1/2021 19:52:38
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:52:46

gollem
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shorter version of kratts wise post.. arrow is not a leader and has no clue as to improving upon it...also..what pacey said as well.. lol
Excel is Recruiting: 4/1/2021 19:54:45


Kratt 
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Well yeah, he isn't really, the big but here is the activity part, in this relatively slow paced game, it can really move mountains.
Excel is Recruiting: 4/6/2021 16:04:50


Loxiiv 
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