Last slot was SEAD, SE1W, MME LD com, and MA MME LF LD

Which you can check here if you want: https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=1&Timeslot=6

Yeah, just look at those beautiful numbers that SEAD and SE1W are able to put up! One of those should definitely always be in the CW rotation for each time slot. After that, you should throw in Strat MME, Strat ME, or an MTL template to attract the competitive player base. Then you should have Strat 2v2 at least once a day because team templates on CW are great and some players live for team games.

And after you have all that, you can throw in cancer templates for dessert.

At least there wasn't Strat 2v2, like below, that had only 2 people sign up for but didn't happen. Also, in the QnA, regarding the two players at the bottom, Fizzer said that if there are players in one slot that didn't get a game in that slot, they can choose to participate in the next slot without having to wait a day.


https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=1&Timeslot=2

Strat 2v2 was popular in time slots 4 (12 players) and 5 (8), though. Maybe underwhelming numbers for CW but that's to be expected- it's got a higher barrier to entry (having another member of your clan join). Strat 2v2 has a weaker case for sure than SEAD, SE1W, Strat 1v1, Strat ME, and most MTL templates as a regular template to have in the CW rotation.

But it's nice to have even if it underperforms since it's the only non-1v1 option.

Yeah, even though they're worth 2 wins, getting 2 of one clan and 2 of another that will actually play is a lot hard to get than the 1v1 templates

In timeslot 2, hardly anyone knew how 2v2s work and that you need to find a clanmate. It probably still isn't common knowledge. Not the best case to study.

This thread is nonsense. Participation in that timeslot is actually up.

Day 1, when there were 3 template options, 15 people queued.
Day 2, when there was just this one template option, 23 people queued.

See, Nauz? I told you your title would get in the way of communicating your point. But we really do not have any empirical data yet to show that so-called "cancer templates" hamper participation in Clan Wars. Should maybe wait a few weeks and then we can visualize it.

Edited 3/18/2021 00:18:49

#fizzydontcare

Forget # of participants ... you absolutely need 1 "Quick" template (SEAD, etc). Minimum. Many people just aren't interested in playing a RT game on anything longer than SE.

And not sure why # of templates is based on previous days participation, rather than live, real time participation. This means that if only 8 people played at this slot yesterday, we get 1 template at same time today even if 50 people join the queue. If >10 people join the queue, open a new template and let people swap their picks. If people keep joining, add more templates.

Previous days' participation can be used as a guide to perhaps _Start_ at some # of templates >1, but it should be a hard limiter when you actually have sufficient # of players wanting to play ... just perhaps no on the single template showing.

Just read Fizz's post ... lol @ "This thread is nonsense." So this thread had false facts? Then shame on us for chatting about irrelevant junk.

BUT ... the thought still holds, imho all CW windows need a quick template.

Edited 3/18/2021 00:58:17

I'm he strategic community tends to feel that SE (1W or AD) is luck. While I feel that skill comes into play much more than people think, the point is that ORDINARY PEOPLE LOVE SE! No template has ever drawn more overall popularity than SE, and it should remain a template. As Fizzer himself (bow here) says that clan wars are for everyone.

The* is first word

I think we should just wait 2-3 weeks, then run actual numbers on Clan Wars participation by time slot to see if so-called "cancer templates" might be depressing participation. But from a cursory glance at the last 50 created games (ending in 26203512), it looks like so-called "cancer templates" might actually be popular, especially among RT casual players.

Combined, the non-cancer templates (SEAD, SE1W, Strategic 1v1, Strategic 2v2, SE COMBOMB) account for 21 of the past 31 QM games. Meanwhile, Auto-Imp.Rom. - LD & Light fog has the second most games of any template, and in the non-QM scene we see all sorts of "cancer templates" (weird RoR, IR, Scrabble setups mainly) dominate.

Hopefully we'll have a stronger conclusion from looking at actual Clan Wars data in a few weeks, but for now I can't really find anything that supports Nauz's hypothesis. Players love cancer?

QM templates

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Small Earth 1v1 Auto Dist: 7 (26203508, 26203502, 26203474, 26203473, 26203472, 26203468, 26203465)
Auto-Imp.Rom.- LD & Light fog: 5 (26203510, 26203500, 26203482, 26203476, 26203469)
Small Earth 1 wasteland: 5 (26203504, 26203489, 26203471, 26203464, 26203461)
Small Earth Commander and Bomb Card: 4 (26203507, 26203481, 26203467, 26203460)
Strategic 1v1: 4 (26203509, 26203484, 26203466, 26203462)
MME Commanders LD No Cards: 2 (26203511, 26203486)
Rise of Rome 1v1: 2 (26203475, 26203470)
Multi-Attack MME Light Fog LD: 1 (26203512)
Red Dead Redemption: 1 (26203479)
Strategic 2v2: 1 (26203499)

Custom templates

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unnamed templates on Rise of Rome: 5 (26203503, 26203501, 26203498, 26203497, 26203493)
lotto templates on Duel: 4 (26203494, 26203492, 26203488, 26203483)
unnamed template(s) on Scrabble: 3 (26203491, 26203478, 26203477)
Antarctica 1v1 on Antarctica Small: 1 (26203487)
celticfringe's Europe 2v2 on Europe: 1 (26203505)
Gotham City 1v1 (V.1.5) on Gotham City: 1 (26203496)
ffa cities on Imperium Romanum: 1 (26203506)
unnamed template(s) on Imperium Romanum: 1 (26203490)
small earth ffa3 on Small Earth: 1 (26203495)

I dare to say, if there are players that don't know how to surrender, then there are also players that dont know how to uncheck templates in QMs.

Thus, the QMs probably shouldnt be the basement to evaluate template favourits.
(have in mind that the "cancer" templates are fixed templates and nothing to vote for)

Edited 3/18/2021 20:07:09

Since the participation seems sufficiently high, I believe a few more timeslots would do nice. Every 6 hours only can be pretty awkward for people with 9 to 5 jobs. Even if someone is a hardcore player who dedicates 4 hours to WarLight in the evening, there maybe might not be a timeslot open then.

Also 1 minute autoboot isn't so nice IMO.

Edited 3/18/2021 20:07:02

There are lottos?!?

Also 1 minute autoboot isn't so nice IMO.

I hope it always has at least 1 template with a low boot time and a small map. I'm sure there are many who even if we spend an hour or two playing WZ on a given day, we can't spend 1-2 hrs continuously, and thus other templates just aren't possible for them.

IMO it's bad style when players keep pressing the "skip to end button" and 1 minute boot times pretty much forces that.

Edited 3/18/2021 21:20:50

Having double the amount of timeslots would really help.

So far, I missed all 4 slot from today cause i was sleeping, traveling, working or eating. And the same thing will probably happen again tomorrow....

I agree with krinid, I like myself some Small earth 1 minute and I think lots of casual players also don't have much patience for their opponent to take 3 minutes analyzing the board
(I mean it has been on QM like that forever)

Edited 3/18/2021 21:38:12