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Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:01:58


καλλιστηι
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Clan wars cap is currently identical with member cap of new clans. It is practically impossible for 40 players to participate every day for whole season. This gives significant advantage to bigger clans (if you have 80 active members, 40 of them are bound to participate/ day).
We ask for lowering the clan wars cap to 25 so all clans have the same chances in the event!
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:07:02


Johnny Silverhand 
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I'm afraid you'd need to not only lower the cap, but also make the games be lottos for Hodopian Dynasty to have the same chances as other clans.

Edited 3/11/2021 13:07:20
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:08:18

Legolas 
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oof, I was about to suggest increasing the cap ):
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:10:13


Ocean0.1 
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Maybe decrease it to 0?
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:18:10


UnFairerOrb76
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maybe just ban anyone who suggests changing the cap???
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:19:02


Z
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Cap is going to be an issue.

Too big, and the new small clans are at a disadvantage because if they have inactive members, they won't be at full capacity. Result: inactive members start getting kicked.

Too small, and the old large clans are at a disadvantage because many members will be locked out. Result: active members start leaving large clans for small ones.

Possible solution: increase max clan size across the board, but have a limit in wars that is smaller than the max. Have rewards distributed through entire clan. This allows wiggle room for inactive members, and allows blocked members to still get rewards.

Example: Max clan size set to 80 for new clans. Continue to only have 40 participants in war on first serve basis as is current. At the end of the season, all clan members, even non-participants get rewards.

To prevent older clans from from collecting new members to take advantage of non-participant rewards, implement the following policy on clans that no new members can join when clan members are greater than 80. Result: current members in old clans are unaffected, but it prevents them from growing unless they weed out inactives or alts.

Edited 3/11/2021 17:59:01
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:36:57


alexclusive 
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I support this petition! :)
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:48:05


Hotarian 
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to start off you only need 16 players for CL... how does this support anything when the cap is 40? Please answer that question
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:48:36


UnFairerOrb76
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^ talking about clan wars
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:49:33


Hotarian 
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I have yet to distinguish the 2
- downvoted post by Legolas
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 13:50:52


Hotarian 
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both are ways of showing who the best clans are, one based on wins and another based on strategic play with your clan mates. they are basically the same thing. I do not see how clan wars even get compared to a QM when it has nothing to do with it
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 14:17:10


Ocean0.1 
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+2 to Legolas
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 14:56:39


rakleader 
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How about capping every clan at 40 players, even the older ones.

This could be easily achieved by randomly kicking out players from clans that have more 40 players.
Or even better, selecting the 40 remaining players through a Battle Royale event. Wouldn't that be exciting?
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 14:57:30


Arrow838™ 
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I support this petion. Increase the member capacity to 50 or reduce the clan wars capacity to 30
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 14:57:47


Hodop 
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I think it would just be better to do what Z said. I think that killing the older clanz would suck. It'd also bring a lot of hate into the community and likely lead to a bunch of people quitting.
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 15:17:32


Norman 
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I'm afraid you'd need to not only lower the cap, but also make the games be lottos for Hodopian Dynasty to have the same chances as other clans.

Maybe make Clan Wars somehow raffle related?
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 15:52:37


Nature
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lets make it like quickmatch, play a game when you have time. That timeframe doesnt work
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 17:53:34


OvertForeigner
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Maybe make the number of territories captured proportional to the number of members participating? If 40 players are participating, every win will get 1 territory, but with 10 players, every win gets 4 territories?
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 17:56:37


Arrow838™ 
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Thats smart
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 17:58:26


Shrek
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I agree with Z tbh
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 18:00:43


goralgn 
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why do we need a cap anyway I say remove both clan wars cap and player cap on clans

Edited 3/11/2021 18:00:49
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 18:03:07


Shrek
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We need a cap so that Clan Wars dont go on for a very very long time (i assume)

Edited 3/11/2021 18:03:15
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 18:18:25


kynte
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It is practically impossible for 40 players to participate every day for whole season.
This applies to TSFH as much as it does to Hodopian Dynasty or anyone else.

The 40-cap is per season not per day. The first 40 TSFH players to join any time slot in a Clan War season are the only TSFH players allowed to compete that season. TSFH will also run into the limitations of one group of 40 players not being available every day.

To prevent older clans from from collecting new members to take advantage of non-participant rewards, implement the following policy on clans that no new members can join when clan members are greater than 80.
It would really really suck if the solution to this non-problem were Fizzer nerfing existing clans. We paid $15 for clans that didn't come with caps; per the TOS and whatnot, Fizzer's well within his rights to alter the deal (and we pray he would not alter it any further) but it would still really suck if he did. I mean, it'd add a question mark to future purchases on the site if what you bought could be changed up on you and made far inferior to what it is that you had in mind. It'd be like paying for Netflix but the company could unilaterally change its terms and say you can only watch shows for 2 hours a day max. Once the precedent gets established, it wouldn't make sense to pay for Netflix anymore because the company could just as readily decide your limit is now 30 minutes, without any recourse on your end. It would undermine the credibility of the product so much.

If you're worried about equality here, here's a radical, untested idea that has never been tried in the history of clans or clan competition on this site: remove the 40 cap for clan membership. If the 40 cap is so necessary for Clan Wars to function properly, then it makes no sense to grandfather existing clans in (wouldn't that be gamebreaking?). So clearly it's not a game-breaking thing because it's okay if clans have only a subset of their members participate in Clan Wars, or else it would've been imposed retroactively too. Players who want to participate but can't because they're too late can simply move to other clans for that season or forever. I don't really see why new clans as a whole had to be handicapped just because Clan Wars have a 40-cap. It only complicates things, because clans that are 40-capped will run into new logistical issues for Clan Wars unless they can get 100% participation (while grandfathered clans won't). In short, I think this was a questionable game design decision that should've at least been deferred until after an actual problem emerged because odds are that we'll see the grandfathered clans (the vast majority of clans at present) organically deal with the Clan Wars 40-cap during the first real season.

Edited 3/11/2021 18:24:13
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 20:34:40


krinid 
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l4v.r0v is wise. 40 member cap clans and 40 player limit Clan Wars means new clans require 100% participation to succeed. That's going to be a problem. Conversely large clans will potentially have a competition for participation.

Also a question ... what about players that leave clans and join others within a single season and play games for both? Do both games count for the clans they belonged to on the play date? Does 1 get invalidated? Are such players made out of scope from the current season of Clan Wars?
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/11/2021 22:42:45


Farah♦ 
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both are ways of showing who the best clans are, one based on wins and another based on strategic play with your clan mates. they are basically the same thing. I do not see how clan wars even get compared to a QM when it has nothing to do with it

Clan League and Clan Wars are completely separate, independent and unrelated competitions with inherently different goals. Maybe read the blog post before commenting
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/12/2021 11:46:20


καλλιστηι
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I'm afraid you'd need to not only lower the cap, but also make the games be lottos for Hodopian Dynasty to have the same chances as other clans.

LD Siege is already one of "popular" settings on WZ.
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/12/2021 11:51:20


Arrow838™ 
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LOL
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/12/2021 21:50:07


{TLA} LND
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I don't +1 this petition, cap is fine as is. If anything is to be done to fix this, increase the clan player cap
Petition to lower clan wars cap: 3/14/2021 22:26:17


finding machine-washed cloth
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petition to give it a chance and see how it goes before making a petition
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