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Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 10:55:02


TianO
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im mad with the game lately, or with the ones giving warning etc. BS
whats the matter with the whoever giving warning , not even talking with you at all. you just get get warningg and have to write
I understand . ahhaha
Thats totally bs things.
you smart asses lol

This account " Seasonal Template Curator " whoever use it is a dumbhead.
he said. "three votes were cast by the same person"
THE dumbhead afer so many seasons of seasonals. he thought about that.
wtf i have my main and 3 alts. and i sended my votes with my alt iswearshewas18 and i participating with this account. what the fuck .
Then got a warning. then have to say understand. UNDERSTAND WHAT?
should i call dimitris and fanis my friends so we decide who eventually will play the seasonal cause the panel is stupid af.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:17:28

Arrow838™
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lol! please control your anger
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:17:50

Arrow838™
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Or you might get banned from the game
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:18:18


Buns157 
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This is probably the worst way to go about your grievance.

It’s likely you’re gonna have to end up typing ‘I understand’ again haha

Edited 7/27/2020 17:57:45
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:18:33


Rick Sanchez
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I got a warning from fizzer for calling someone a noob. I feel you brother.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:19:43


Farah♦ 
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But do you understand?
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:19:55

Arrow838™
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lol🤣🤣
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:20:19

Arrow838™
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I dont think that he does
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:20:21

CalvinNU
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I understand.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 11:20:55

Arrow838™
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Is tinaO your alt calvin? Or are you like him
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 12:47:51


Rikku
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Wow Beren just got dabbed on
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:21:09


TianO
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Well i will tell one time.

TianO (main)
Vikinger TianO
iswearshewas18
purple&blue

Those are my accounts.
And i only play at seasonal with iswearshewas18.

thats my facts .
I dont care about get warning or whatever.
I need someone to explain me what the violations are ? what wrong i did?
i dont use "Roses" "Rose" "DimitrisWingo" those are not my accounts!
Fuck this man. im angry.
the panel that organize the warning etc. should explain better why u getting warned and have to respond with I understand.
im not just a random player who started the game 1 month before.
Im on this shit years and playing the game and wasting my time with organizing turnaments being on community etc.
to have warning like that when i did nothing wrong.
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:23:17


TianO
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Warzone curator or whatever is this account is bs.
Seasonal is rigged. Unicorn island should be the template cause got the votes.
and what exactly happened? like wtf if me roses and wingo are the same why i got warned for the seasonal bs thing and i still participating on mtl. like roses participating etc.
we re not the same person . and we re obv not violating any rules.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:25:27


TianO
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like
" yo u guys are the same person so you get a warning for voting about seasonal" but nothing happening for mtl ladders etc. i just warn you for voting for seasonal"
Lmao ahaha
if i were using all the accounts i should get banned. but NO im not using 7 accounts. im using 4. and im not violating any rules.
Still votes for seasonal is the problem? someoene wanted to play yorksire? i dont get the whole thing
BS
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:27:46


Farah♦ 
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You're not yourself when you're hungry. Take a snickers
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:27:50


TianO
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Buns157 Warzone Member
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This is probably the worst to go about your grievance.

It’s likely you’re gonna have to end up typing ‘I understand’ again haha


sup Buns, prop haha :D
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:28:57


TianO
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@Rick Sanchez :D

@Farah♦ on the way to get some .
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:35:50


Cowboy 
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I don't think they're your accounts, but I know you have access to them. I would not be surprised if you voted for them using their accounts, just based on the fact you voted the same way.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 14:51:12


master of desaster 
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There are 4 options of why you might be mad.

Option 1: you are mad you got caught
Option 2: you are mad cause you claim they are not your alts
Option 3: you are mad you only got caught just now and not before
Option 4: you are mad archipelageo brawl didn't make it as an option and never will make it.

Which one is it?
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 15:06:34


goralgn
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Option 5:All Of the Above For 500 Master Of Desaster
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 15:13:33


TianO
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option 4 lol
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 15:13:55


TianO
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okay one last time,
i have and use 4 accounts :P.

Edited 7/27/2020 15:14:08
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 15:33:10


alexclusive 
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Just choose your favourite account and always play from that one, problem solved?
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 17:26:06


knyte 
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Parsing through this thread, I think a charitable interpretation of what TianO is saying is:

  • The warning TianO received was not clear as to what the evidence was
  • TianO didn't have an avenue for disputing the warning and the vote invalidation
  • DimitrisWingo, TianO, Roses, and Rose are not the same person
  • The policies are enforced inconsistently: if those are all TianO's alts, then why aren't they banned from the 1v1 ladder where more than one of them is active?
  • Unicorn Island rightfully received the most votes and should be the Seasonal template
  • It's only a coincidence that those three accounts voted the same way
Assuming I got that right, it seems TianO would be best off privately resolving these concerns with an admin or mod (or just DMing Fizzer with a short, non-aggressive message). They could probably outline for TianO what evidence they have that the votes were made by the same person (my guess is that the admins have records of these accounts being logged into from the same IP, maybe even when the votes were submitted). TianO could then rebut this evidence and supply any evidence TianO has that TianO didn't log into those accounts and vote multiple times (e.g., proof that these are separate people, anything that explains why they voted similarly- like a private message thread where they were discussing their preferences).

If TianO is indeed innocent and those votes going the same way was a coincidence (or the result of collusion that didn't amount to vote manipulation), then it's kind of mean for people to pile on to TianO and tell him to eat a snickers for being (imo, rightfully) a bit peeved and apparently not being great with words. It seems like this thread won't be a productive place to resolve whatever disputes there are right now.

If TianO did manipulate the votes, the best option is to simply not try those sorts of shenanigans. Even if you- for some reason- take an unwarrantedly and disproportionately sophisticated approach to just mess with seasonal ladder votes, I doubt you would be able to sneak past Fizzer and the admins. It's one thing to hide an alt from other players and a completely different ballgame to try and pull a fast one on the site's admins, who can easily log and investigate every single interaction you have with Warzone and flag suspicious behavior. So, if you actually did this, TianO, you should be pretty happy you got off with just a warning.

/2c; I don't have the facts of this case

Edited 7/27/2020 22:35:10
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 17:44:45


IRiseYouFall
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I agree with knyte. Tiano is innocent and everyone that accused him of voting with multiple accounts needs to apologize, but that's never gonna happen cause u all r full of yourselves and your ego doesn't allow you to admit you are wrong.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 17:54:07


Yaxvi
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Probably TianO is telling the truth. Why would he make the thread?

Probably Beren made a monkey of it, should've talked to the guy that receives the accusation of manipulating votes. If he did I assume TianO wouldn't take it to the threads in a mark of confusion.

Probably this is the risk you take when you're mixing your Warzone business across different accounts. It leads to confusion for making community events that forbidden alt rules and community judgement. If there's accidental crossfire with one of your alts, that's the risk you play with.

In conclusion, for all sake, keep your community business on one alt if you're going for alts. Beren should talk to the person accused so it doesn't go forums. Generally for all, don't have alts and if you still decide you are, be responsible and keep business to one for community tracking.

I do think an apology is owed to TianO by Beren.

Probably...
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 17:57:31


Rikku
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Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 18:06:15

Anonymous Moderator
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Information to be aware off before discussing this further:

The Seasonal Template Curator received information from admins.
This case has been looked at by four different admins.
We only send warnings if we are quite certain of wrongdoing.

If necessary, TianO can contact Fizzer directly, this topic won't change anything.

@knyte: Any reason why you provide advice on how to cheat? We would appreciate if you removed that part from your post.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 18:18:52


Cowboy 
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"@knyte: Any reason why you provide advice on how to cheat? We would appreciate if you removed that part from your post"

Don't tempt me to do the opposite.
Seasonal things: 7/27/2020 22:10:42


knyte 
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TL;DR: I'm not pro-cheating. I think plenty of people can attest to that.

I agree with knyte. Tiano is innocent
For the record, I would be surprised if TianO's warning and vote invalidation were in error. I just tried to parse through TianO's frankly confusing posts and direct him to a hopefully more productive avenue if he genuinely believes he did nothing wrong.

I'm not condoning, promoting, or otherwise providing instructions on how to cheat. In case it's not clear, don't cheat. Not only is it wrong but you are playing an uphill battle- my money is on you getting caught. Likewise, don't pick battles with the mods or admins because you'll always lose. It's Fizzer's game and Fizzer's site and hence Fizzer and the admins are the ones reviewing Fizzer and the admins' decisions. Try to work with them and not against them. If they actually are irrational and/or incompetent, then you're only doubly screwed. Instead, assume good faith and reasonable behavior and if you genuinely think there is a misunderstanding, work with them to clear that up.

(If this seems like it's out of left field: This post is sponsored by Fizzer sending me a DM suggesting I stop playing Warzone if I'm so okay with cheating.)

Edited 7/27/2020 22:24:59
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