Does anyone have reliable information on the ongoing situation? Seems like Google is borderline censoring it and haven't seen anything out of Western media.

From what I know, they are putting Uyghur Muslims in boxcars in the Xinjiang "autonomous" province, shaving their heads, and sterilizing and "re-educating" them.

Fuck the CCP. Fuck Chairman Xi. Fuck anyone who condones or apologizes this.

A Google search for "Uighur news" seems to work fine for me; the top results are all about crimes against humanity being currently committed by China. The suggested questions are all about what's happening right now to them. For me, the World Uyghur Congress's site is among the top results. There's also an NYT tag for it, and it seems like the NYT recently found evidence that China's face masks are being made using forced Uighur labor.

What's the issue in your search results?

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I'm not talking specifically about uighurs, but do you think in general Muslims and non Muslims can coexist peacefully? I think a good example is Sweden where Muslim immigrants turn safe neighbourhoods into shitholes full of violence.

Western civilization And Islam as a religion Religion (muslim) Clash with each other sometimes

as an example usually in western society is accepting of homosexuality but a Religous Muslim (do keep in mind not all Muslims practice religion seriously) Would See homosexuality as immoral or worst case scenario as a disease that must be cured from a person and i saw a video (link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faSKWFZE1zE&t=1s ) that explains this example better than i ever could.

do i think Muslims and non-muslims can coexist yes if they are not religiously Fanatic about Islam (like me for an example) but with islamic world going more and more conservative islamist over the years (turkey included) i am scared for the future of the Islamic world.

(What i mean By Conservative islamist means more and More Policies will be acted based on religion rather than basic thinking of a modern society)

(I felt Like I sounded Like A homophobic Here So I want to add That I support gay rights Who the duck Cares Who Do You love as long as they love you back I don't see the problem)

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coreby_thepenguin showed me a podcast the other day called china unscripted, which is just a podcast about china, and they made an episode on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTUVxw7VXc (China's Slow Motion Uyghur Genocide | Arslan Hidayat)

China treats anyone terribly who undermines the authority of the state. Look at how many Christians have been arrested there too.

@berdan As long as the Muslim in question behaves like Muhammad, no they can't. Theoretically all Muslims should strive to be like Muhammad, but not all of them do, thankfully.

Islam, as a religion, is clean

Islam, as an ideology, is tainted

Islam, as a culture, is broken

It wasn't always this way. Originally, women were treat relatively well under Islam. Then social conservatism happened and it got worse and worse. Then the ottomans got fucked and westerners intruded. Economies went to shit, radical ideas went up, rinse and repeat until oil makes the region rich and they can afford to invest in deadly organizations.

If you want a local country, blame the saudis. But overall, it's been our fault for over half a century.

As A turk I Want To Say This To You

Islam as a Culture (IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD) Is Still in the medieval ages not broken (that's how they make me feel if it isn't true to you okay cool but that's how they make ME feel ok?)

Islam as a ruling ideology Grown Corrupt, CANCEROUS and basically became oligarchic.

Islam As A Religion Is Becoming more radical or did you forget about ISIS?

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@Tungsten Islam, as a religion, is fascist (in the genuine meaning of the word).
Tell me, who invaded the Muslims in the 600s that caused them to create an empire from Pakistan to Spain? The Saudis weren't even around when this was written:
https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/40/8
https://sunnah.com/urn/1294400
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/77/42 (specifically the first part of this)

Qur'an 4:34 - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."
In most translations the word "lightly" is added in brackets after "beat them", but "lightly" doesn't appear in the Arabic.

Qur'an 9:29 - "Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger Muhammad (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Finally, if you want an in depth analysis that uses sources and not just long speeches like Muslims love to give: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzo68vZ1TZ4

This is a stupid alt-rightfest. Some of my best friends and colleagues are muslim. Most are very kind and mild mannered. There are ~3.5 million living all across the USA. If they were all causing problems... I think it would be pretty obvious.

And no matter the ideology, cultural genocide, as in what the CCP is doing, is NOT something I favor.

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@Aura Ah yes, ignore the sources, just call us alt right. The video I posted was that of an Arab.

Refer to my last comment: Theoretically all Muslims should strive to be like Muhammad, but not all of them do, thankfully.
We're talking about the ideology itself, not whether people adhere to that ideology.

"This is a stupid alt-rightfest. Some of my best friends and colleagues are muslim. Most are very kind and mild mannered. There are ~3.5 million living all across the USA. If they were all causing problems... I think it would be pretty obvious"

if they are not religiously Fanatic about Islam Yes This is true arent you reading the stuff aura? or did I misunderstood you? no one claimed all Muslims are causing problems hell I said "do i think Muslims and non-muslims can coexist yes if they are not religiously Fanatic about Islam (like me for an example) but with islamic world going more and more conservative islamist over the years (turkey included) i am scared for the future of the Islamic world."


BTW Alt- Right Is Usually means NEO-NAZIS and I don't think it applies here since no one here (apart from me right now)have said purge the Muslims as I understand it.

I still stand by my claim that as a religion, it's not a virus of satan.

"I still stand by my claim that as a religion, it's not a virus of satan."

Pepe said "Islam, as a religion, is fascist"
I Said "Islam as a Religion Becoming more radical or did you forget about ISIS?"

Who said it was a virus of satan?

Lol

Why are people so divided by religion, can’t we just have peace? Smh.

Some people like Aura Guardian would just like to wear pink sunglasses and live in love, peace and freedom utopia. And everyone who talks about differences is just a stupid alt-rightist neo nazi lol xD

I like to see the full picture.

"Why are people so divided by religion, can’t we just have peace? Smh."

No because Everyone has a different opinion

You want to know My Real Thoughts On religion (in general)

"Religion Is A Rotting Corpse That is Poisoning All Of Our Lives"

I Dont Care Which god You Workship Like I Said Before

"I Dont care If Your God Exist Or Mine Exists As I See It Either All Gods Exist Or None Do"

And If This 2 Quotes Feel like they are clashing without the info i will right down now they are

Here is the thing As Long As You Dont believe a god has Power Over You More Then likely They Dont Why Because I believe The Gods Need The Prayers Of Their Followers To Have Power over Them

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Fundamental Islam is no more dangerous than fundamental Christianity. Just like Christianity, the fight against it should be against fundamentalism, rather than just the religion itself.

Regardless, fundamental or not, this is no excuse for what the Chinese are doing to the Uyghurs.

Some people like Aura Guardian would just like to wear pink sunglasses and live in love, peace and freedom utopia. And everyone who talks about differences is just a stupid alt-rightist neo nazi lol xD

Absolutely false. I tend to think the world is a very fucked up place. Such as the CCP detaining millions of people in what are quite literally concentration camps to sinicize them.

I like to see the full picture.

Says everyone always.