Apollo - Yes I did. I can't imagine such a fucked up person? who would talk to themselves in team chat. Just to make it look like they are brothers. Why would you do that

I did. Just for fun. I even gave my alts different tempers if not personality profiles.. Call that fucked-up, call that "psychopathic" or schisophrenic, i call it role-playing.

Fair enough, not me. This is all getting beyond ridiculous. I don't know about you guys, but my vote is no and I'm out...bye.

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Excuses. Pick one of the league runners you trust. You don't have to add him. Just show him your and your brothers facebook account so he got a proof you got brothers.

I don't think you have a split up personality. Your need for admiration is just too big. That's also the reason why you gave experienced players hints what they could've done better after they lost. For some reason you want everyone to think you're a good player (reason for the thread where you challenged good players on wohoo).

Every "proof" you gave so far is so easy to fake and needs no time. better proof us with the facebook profiles that you wasn't lying about having brothers. I don't want to see your face so just pm it one of the league runners so he can check and no information of you is in the forum

Dude, if you are going to post evidence, at least provide an English translation. I don't speak Dutch.


From Orange:
"why is it strange we did not want people to know he is my brother? we did not expect people to believe that and didn't want a investigation so we naturally did not announce it.
and i agree that "No "typing" test can change that" but we talked together even before we were involved into any clan and only played real time game, that should be evidence enough."

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would anyone care if you and your 'brother' were public from the start? If my brother started playing (he was big into these types of games, so it would not surprise me if he did), why would I care if people knew? There is no downside to that. I think the timing of this is completely fishy for a reason.

Also, another fishy thing...I looked at all those games Woohoo posted. Goldheadshot does about %90 of the talking in public chat. Why none from Orange? That suggests you are the same person. Also, in some games you both got booted, another probable alt sign. Even if you were two brothers in the same house, it is unlikely that two people would forget about a game and get booted. One would remember I hope.

As far as JSA and his brother, I think it is sad that he denied he knew him in that post provided. I have not played with/against Khalid enough to know if that is JSA or not. I do believe that JSA's brother plays/played and was Unknown Ranger/King Tut. I played enough with both of them to see the differences there. Like I said I don't know enough about Khalid to make the same judgement.

If someone wants to prove they are the same, I would love to see that evidence. But right now I believe they are not.

"turtle- "Cmon, do you really think someone make 2 different personalities when he starts playing warlight?""

I didn't say that Fridge.

@ChrisCMU
"i would just say you can play 4 tournaments at most in total as long as the clans you are playing for are in different groups so there is no way you play against the other clan you are in as well" ~Wakanari

This is what I've been saying for ages. That I wanted to play The Turtle in 2 tournaments and Croagunk88 in 2 tournaments....... If this suggestion were to come into effect it wouldn't matter if Wohoo is DD/Organe because Orange/DD is in 1 tournament while Wohoo is in 2 tournaments so that is only 3/4 tournaments assuming that it is one person not 2 persons.

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Seriously someone make a fucking decision and let's move on.

Well, it would matter Turtle because that rule was not in place this season.

My vote is that DD/Woohoo are suspended for next season. I think it is much more likely that they are alts than not, and the early deception takes away any benefit of the doubt).

I also think the committee needs to further discuss the rules and consider the total game limit option, regardless of clan.

Seriously someone make a fucking decision and let's move on.

YES!

So.... Wohoo, Dutch Desire/Orange, and Desi/MoD are all suspended for next season? Are there other punishments for Icelandic Turtles and |GG|? What are the templates for next season?

turtle - srry. f course it was not you saying that.

tell us what you decide - regarding both - the participation and points earned by alts.

time for a poll!

also next to proof i have that we type in the same chats, i also have proof we both speak:

In this game:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=2408179
you can see that a dutch player where we played a few games with asked us to start a clan on 2012/03/18, and my brother asked him to download teamspeak(he used that a lot for a game called crossfire, i did not use it much/played that game not much.)

In the next game you can read in the teamchat that he can hear us both.(but my sound was not working somehow, so i could not hear them):

i can confirm that what DD is saying here in English is the same as in the chat of the game he linked and showed with a screenshot

note that I thought beforehand that they were the same although this is making me doubt about it to be fair.

Well, how are we to verify that? Unless he has audio to provide, or that person states that he heard two different voices, we have nothing to go on.

Can we get a score update? It is at least 5-6 pages buried now.

goldheadshot and sun-tzu said in the second game they could hear DD but DD couldn't hear them

raw translation: (few points might of slightly but most importants parts are in)
DD: hey
ST: hey
Gh: yo
DD: can you hear me?
DD: i can't hear you
ST: yes i hear you
Gh: i just heard you
ST: maybe put mute off
DD: no, i have that put off

after that they start chatting about picks

edit:
ST 21:50:14, hmm maybe a cable is loose or so

Edited 9/12/2014 19:04:29

Any of you with brothers that you are close with: Would you lie for them if they wanted an alt to remain hidden? If there was a problem with anything, it was me revealing who he was to the warlight community after his ladder run.

I don't know Sun Tzu at all.

wakanarai, I don't understand what you are posting. Those are chat comments in warlight? If so, how do you know anything from the actual voice chat (like that it was two different voices)?

Edited 9/12/2014 21:37:32

Also, another fishy thing...I looked at all those games Woohoo posted. Goldheadshot does about %90 of the talking in public chat. Why none from Orange? That suggests you are the same person. Also, in some games you both got booted, another probable alt sign. Even if you were two brothers in the same house, it is unlikely that two people would forget about a game and get booted. One would remember I hope.

As someone that has teamed with a brother (although only against AIs when set to realtime), the reason for the bootings may not have been forgetting about the game. I know a couple of times me and my brother had to go help with something else and got called away from our computers.

There was only once that only one of us forgot about a multiplayer game (large ffa) and I had to remind him after he fed the dogs.

I don't know Sun Tzu at all.

wakanarai, I don't understand what you are posting. Those are chat comments in warlight? If so, how do you know anything from the actual voice chat (like that it was two different voices)?

I don't know Sun-Tzu as well
I just translated all the messages Sun-Tzu, DD and goldheadshot said in team chat in the screen DD posted on last page. From what they said in there I personally changed my mind but i'm Dutch as well so I'm able to actually read all the chat they said

About the Wohoo part i found this game: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6419729
Here Wohoo is mentioning something about the picks of GreenTea which i don't think is something a casual player would say but a more experienced player.

That was something i said back on page 7 of this thread that was over 2 months ago already.
It might be that DD took some turns for his "Brother" since i still don't see a way how someone with that little experience would write something like that about the picks in the chat.