talked to Sun Tzu he had a lot to say

to blitz he said
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

to JSA he said
He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men’s weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue… In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.

to the turtle he said
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy’s will to be imposed on him.

to Orange he said
The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.

to Pulsey he said
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

and to the rest he said
He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces. He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared. He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.

I feel like I'm in a Koans thread all of a sudden...

Ah well, at least VIW won't get relegated :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Viz3GlgloChi50YIkMjUsU30xuOTfmd1icPsNrgc8FI/edit#gid=0

Everything is sorted on max points now.
updates group B: 93,94% compeleted

clan   score   win%  max points games left   rank    tourn. wins
20     169     77%     196         6          1st        3
WarL.  130     57%     151         5        2nd-3rd      0
French 122     57%     144         5        2nd-4th      2
VIW    111     48%     125         3        3rd-5th      1
BIA    110     45%     119         2        4th-5th      0
REGL    78     40%      99         5          6th        0
XCD     58     29%      68         2          7th        1

BIA getting pretty close to actually finishing in front of VIW but nothing is decided yet but it also doesn't matter that much since there is nothing for promotion or relegation for both clans. On the other hand French and WarLighters are still fighting for 2nd place which is giving the right for promotion.


Group C: 97,84% completed

clan   score   win%  max points games left  rank    tourn. wins
Lynx   176     75%     191         4         1st        4
BR     134     59%     144         2       2nd-4th      0
Turtle 134     56%     139         1       2nd-4th      1 (Wohoo)
Blitz  130     77%     135         1       2nd-4th      3 (1x desi)
SNinja 121     53%     126         1         5th        2
Swirve  46     19%      56         2         6th        0
Ohms    25     12%      25         0         7th        0

Lynx is officially the winner in Group C. The competition for 2nd place looks be the game between BR and Turtles which desides who will be 2nd and who will be 4th since Blitz will be finishing between them.
For this ending all 3 will lose to Lynx if they still have games against them and all will win against Swirve and Ohms. Neither if those 3 has to face Sninja so they aren't a factor for them at all and 1 SNinja team is likely to lose on triple boot as well in their games left.


A interesting fact is that in both group B and group C the current number 2 with maximal points has no tournament wins so far while 3 other clans below them have at least 1 tournament win already

Group B is all about the promotion place now :D We've stretched the advantage keep it up guys! Also congrats to 20/Lynx :)

The earlier ruling of the desi/Masterofdesaster case has been changed. Blitz did know that masterofdesaster was desi beforehand. However, the punishment they were originally going to receive has been ruled as too harsh by the clan league council. Instead of losing all of their points in the tournaments that desi played in, they will lose all of the 1v1 points desi earned for Blitz, as well as 1/2 of the 2v2, and 1/3 of the 3v3 points. Wakanari, can you please figure this up in your standings (Include up to one decimal point if needed).

Excluding my vote, the council has still decided that Woohoo is Orange. Therefore, Orange and Woohoo will be suspended for one season (same as master of desaster/desi). Both of these players (master of desaster and Orange) will be readmitted for Season 7 of the Clan League.

....... Reinstating points to Blitz isnt fair to BR......


We are waiting for BR to accept out surrenders. BR wins :|

Not reinstating points to Blitz isn't fair to Blitz.

We were simply correcting our earlier mistake.

"The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy’s will to be imposed on him."

It's a family trait.....Makes mealtimes a bit ermm... interesting.

There is no proof we are alts but loads of proof we are not alts. by puniching us you make the leage organization look unreliable. also JSA has clearly a alt and even the argument that he(or exely his alt) did say from the beginning that he was his brother are not true. and next to that he abused his mod rights and got stiped from it by fizzer. it is unacceptable that someone like that is in the organization of the clanleage. if i and my brother are suspended from the clanleage next season that this leage is nothing but a joke for taking such a unfair disision.

You know the saddest part of your comment, Orange. My vote had nothing to do with whether or not you would be allowed to compete in the clan league.

And you are clueless about my mod rights.

And just because you say it is a joke does not make it a joke. 5 seasons of being one of the most popular leagues on warlight does not make something a joke.

We aren't always going to make the right decisions, but a vast majority of the time, we will, and I believe the council members have made the right one in this case. Case closed.

Edited 9/14/2014 01:01:29

that makes me happy :) even more happy makes me that orange still Claims that wohoo isn't his alt and he Plays the victim now ^^ thank you guys!

i didn't say your vote has anything to do with it. i did say you have a alt and should not be in the clanleage organization and that we have proof enough that we are not alts.

You are wrong. I don't have a alt. I have multiple alts. And not one is named Robin Hood. I have never cheated in the clan league by using multiple accounts.

The council HAS decided that you cheated in the clan league by using multiple accounts. You had the chance to provide evidence to convince the council members, and you failed.

how can you even say that?!?
you did say you told everyone Robin Hood/ Khalid that he was your brother from the start, but the thread plusy gave us:
(http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=18263)
is clearly showing otherwise.

Also the things Robin Hood/ Khalid did say in that thread doesn't make sense if he was your brother, and your excuses why he can not be your alt make 0 sense too. But still you keep saying who is my alt even with all the proof i did give.

Its clear you are wrong in every thinkable way.

That the council did say he is my alt is for me proof that they are not reliable at the least.

prove it orange! i would lie for my brother too. he was just hiding his Brothers alt. this thread is absolutely no proof.

Orange, never once did I say that I said that Khalid was my brother from the start. But I did say Robin Hood was my brother from the start. Reread my posts if you don't believe me.

The case is closed, as I said earlier.

Edited 9/15/2014 21:37:24

What Orange is currently referring to, you possibly being Robin Hood, has never been put before a judge. This is a case just starting thus it can not just be closed because you say so. If you could say case closed about the case against you then no one could have challenged Orange.

Though if I may suggest something. I think that we should have this conversation elsewhere. I see that our arguments about Wohoo have disturbed the thread's content, and players who read it.

More alt drama?? --grabs popcorn--

Need more proof on Woohoo=Dutch Desire?

Check who did most of the posting earlier in this thread? Woohoo
Check who's done most of the posting since it looked like they would be found guilty? Orange

Sure. I'll leave it up to Orange and Turtle to find evidence that I am Robin Hood (and whoever wants to help them). I'll even make a mail thread with Orange, The Turtle, and the council members. I'll provide Robin Hood and I's defense also. Then the council can vote on it. Sound fair?

I am not interested in doing work or evidence for someone who is not my own. I worked for Wohoo not for fun but cause hes in my clan. I would however be interested in what goes on......

As you said to Wohoo/Orange though. Just provide us with a Facebook account....... Though a brother could lie it at least proves you have a brother and shows if your brother is of age to have some skill.