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Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:02:11


Ryuuji 
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Hello,

I'm not quite sure this will be heard, but I think something should be done about players who make a living out of insulting people.

Maybe I'm just too old, but I really can't understand this mentallity.
Warzone is a game to relax and enjoy basic strategy, yet people just feel the need, the urge... to be agressive and insult simply because the desired move was not done.

No teamtalk, only trashtalk is their guideline.
Don't expect help or teamtalk as to "Maybe this or that move could be better". You need to read their minds and perform as their wishes or else you get insulted.

I'm not the kind of person who can easely get offended, I'm actually grown up and have no desire whatsoever to insult others (as this is basically aknowledging lack of arguments and by extension lack of knowledge), but I find it sad that people come to play a game only to be agressive towards others when it's supposed to be fun.


I am aware there is a blacklist button (my list is quite huge), but the possibility to read messages when posted just makes you wonder what is being told. Also, when some time goes by, you read out of curiosity, to see if something changed, maybe they got a little more mature... Hope makes wonders...


My opinion is : There should be a "permanent blacklist" option. To completely remove any interaction with said players. (Some people will simply never grow up and will always feel the urge to insult)
Also, adding an option to not join a game if said player joined the game. (Right now, if you are not the host, said players can be in the same game as you)


That being said, I'm not going to pronounce names, as that would only lower my level to theirs, and I simply won't fall this low.

Thanks for reading, and maybe make this option possible.
- downvoted post by berdan131
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:19:40


Emperor Justinian
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>I'm not the kind of person who can easely get offended

>I am aware there is a blacklist button (my list is quite huge)

This post was probably made because someone hurt your feelings. I really see no point in implementing an extra blacklist as you literally just need a tiny bit of self control to not look at the messages that are blocked.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:24:34


Ryuuji 
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Your assumptions are wrong, but I understand what you mean.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:28:06


Emperor Justinian
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Both or do you just mean the first one?
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:37:12


Leia - Coinwheel Princess
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I can relate to the original poster Ryuuji... I don't like the immature reactions of some players.
Lucky I wasn't in that many games yet, where the team-player or enemy got to the point of insults.

I think it's the poison of current society. Respect and fair play isn't always the high standard. Personal gain is.
Every comment is taken as a personal insult and one defends himself, "on the man instead of on the ball".

I would suggest to everybody: just enjoy the games, when defeated or making a bad move, learn from it. Be constructive to others, whether they are enemy or ally. Treat the other as you want to be treated.

And to the minors: I know it's funny sometimes to search the boundaries of how far you can go. Note that the impression you leave with others isn't what you want them to think of you. Always show your better side.

In the end, we're all just people. We all have our flaws and our strengths. Have respect and patience to each other!
"Good Game" and " Thanks" are never an insult ;-)

Enjoy your games!
Leia
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:40:21


Ryuuji 
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Seeing I can't agree with "insulting back" as this is litteraly childish (It's no offence, it's litteraly what little kids do in school), I was answering to your comment.

No one hurt my feelings, if anything I'm not sure I have feelings left.
Should anyone hurt my feelings, talking about it on a forum is not going to do much.

You see no point in adding an extra blacklist system, I understand.
My point was, maybe adding the option to "perma blacklist" players.
Right now, blacklist is pretty loose. You can still read messages, join the same games, etc...
I was considering adding some degree of softness to the blacklist system.

For example :
- Blacklist lvl 1 would be the same as now.
- Blacklist lvl 2 would mean no more interactions whatsoever. (No more possibilities for players to visit profiles, send private messages, click the "read" button)

"You literally just need a tiny bit of self control"
I also understand what you mean by this.
But when you play a teamgame, and you have one blacklisted, and another one not blacklisted, and you see 10 messages scrolling, you start to wonder.

Sure, discipline (Aka : tiny bit of self control) should take the upperhand, but sometimes you can't help it. (Or sometimes you even missclick)


So I understand your POV. I still think it would be helpfull to have, let's say, a more strict blacklist tool.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:42:17


Emperor Justinian
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But what are you seeing that is that bad?
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:53:11


Ryuuji 
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Overall, harmfull behavior towards the community, leading in slow but definite decline of it.

This game should be fun, and the game itself still is, but much like cancer only kills a person at saturation, toxicity kills a community at saturation aswell.

Blacklist acts like an isolation tool, and right now the tool is not strict enough to my likings.
(Not that it should be, but it is worth talking about it)
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 14:56:59

Zepitia
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ok not strict enough? how much more strict can you be! when the guy says something when u blacklist him u cant see what he says! You dont need to permanently ban him from your views he just cant contact you. You still want views right? whats the point of eliminating someone from society when we are all supposed to be equal. can u answer that one?
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 15:01:53

Zepitia
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what if that person wanted to message you and say that it was a jerk thing to do and he'she was sorry?? how can u read it then? I think that WZ does a really good job with the blacklist and they make it so that if a makeup is made in game chat it can, when u blacklist someone they cant send mail to you!!!! think about that before comming up with such a thought.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 15:11:17


Ryuuji 
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I'm glad you like the system as it is.

I never said it was bad, just too loose.

"eliminating someone from society"
No, I think you got me wrong, and I back it up by the fact you use the word "ban".

I'm not requesting a tool to ban players, this is at the discrecy of administration.
I'm saying a more "strict/solid" blacklist could help.

"Think about bringing up your thoughts"
I thought this through, I'm playing this game for years now.


If you are happy with the system, maybe make it a "premium feature"?
It's really the way I would look at it, a feature. Not something one MUST use, but something someone CAN use, when the same player gets agressive over and over again.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 19:34:28


Skaarfungandr the Mighty
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Speaking as someone who's happily blocked hundreds of people - I think the blacklist is in a decent spot. A lot of games (not just Warzone/Warlight) run into this issue. It can slow down matchmaking if people too much discretion over their potential teammates/opponents, and encourages abuse. I usually don't care if I have a blacklisted person as an opponent, I just don't want to team with them or read their bullsh!t.

The block list currently prevents those players from joining your tournaments/games, and hides their chat/blocks mail. I don't know if it blocks PMs ingame, but those should be hidden too right?

@Bruno In general, people don't care about equality, they just don't want to be at a disadvantage with other people. I like the idealism though. The point of a blacklist is to prevent interaction between specific players, it doesn't cut out interactions with other people.

"what if that person wanted to message you and say that it was a jerk thing to do and he'she was sorry?? how can u read it then?"

I usually block people who are toxic/are grumpy teammates/have offensive names. I'm not typically pushy about team orders - even if they are highly inefficient - so grumpy teammates almost never improve. People with offensive names find it funny/whatever, and me blocking them won't change a damn thing. And people who are toxic.... I think you see the pattern? In none of these cases, is it likely that someone will change their mind and apologize. I've only had this happen a couple of times over ~ 5 years, across 4 different team games.

I'd love to believe that people change for the better, but it won't happen because someone added you to a blocklist. It won't change someone's sense of humor, outrageous views, trolly behavior, toxic attitude, or insistence on following a dumb strategy in a team game.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 22:53:06


𝘝𝘌𝘙𝘕𝘈𝘓 𝘝𝘐𝘕𝘈𝘐𝘎𝘙𝘌𝘛𝘛𝘌
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My cooperation... $50 per game

My advise and feedback.... $100 per game

My kindness.... $200 per game

My insults, my hatred, coldness, and lies... always free
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 23:14:25


DarkKing121
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My blocklist is reserved for trolls and bad language/racist people. I see no need for another blacklist when mine is only 11 people long.

P.S. I always put the reason someone was blocklisted in my notes for easy reference.

Edited 6/5/2020 23:18:36
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 23:18:48


ZombieSlayer
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A warning should be issued before being arbitrarily blocked for 24 hours from group chat. I was having a good chat with someone, perfectly accurate posts, nobody indicated anything offensive, then I was suddenly blocked without any warning. I've recommended tons of people to this game and I'm disappointed at this kind of treatment.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/5/2020 23:25:43


TBest 
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I'm not quite sure this will be heard, but I think something should be done about players who make a living out of insulting people.

Things are done about such players everyday. If someone is breaking the wz rules, you should report them.

As a reminder the full rules, which everyone on this site have agreed to, can be found at TOS here https://www.warzone.com/TermsOfService

Particularly, this section is relevant :

XVII. Rules for Communication and Anti-Spam Policy

It is possible for players to contact each other on the Website. In doing so, player are obligated to only send messages that (i) are free of obvious or hidden advertisement, (ii) are neither subjective, intentionally false, derogatory, defamatory, immoral, nor pornographic in nature nor fulfill any other element of offense, (iii) are not damaging to any third parties, (iv) do not contain any viruses or computer programs that could affect the function of external computers, (v) are not surveys or chain letters, (vi) were not written with the intent to expand a certain political, ideological, or religious denomination, and (vii) were not written with the intent to collect, save, or use personal information from users without their explicit consent, especially for promotional purposes.


There are also sections on spam and Online Conduct and Abuse.
Free insults, feeling of superiority, etc...: 6/6/2020 15:30:38


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My goodness, downvote mob, it was a joke
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