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Champions League: 8/28/2019 22:07:27


FalerCZ
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Hi guys,

I'm main organisator of CZ P/R League and I'd like to start new event, what could be called as Champions League. The principe of the league should be same as in football (soccer) - that means the best players from national P/R leagues gonna play each other in special tournament just for invited.

I would like to start with few national winners, but first of all I need to gather information about all national P/R leagues.

I already know this:
Czech - I'm the organisator
France - Raklead is the organisator, they are interested in Champions League
Poland - there is no P/R league, my primary contact is Menda, because he's planning P/R league and he is also interested in Champions League
Slovakia - too few players, they are part of Czech P/R league

Could you share some info about other national P/R leagues? Who are the organisators? Would you be interested in this kind of event?
Champions League: 8/29/2019 01:00:20

NoName 2.1
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other similar idea it’s considering clans and not nations. We organize P/R League but we are all the different nations. Will be amazing that we can organize same P/R League each clan and after take the best for this king of event
Champions League: 8/29/2019 05:48:10


FalerCZ
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I'm also organisator of P/R league of FCC so if u are interested, this idea could works too
Champions League: 8/29/2019 12:08:00


PowerB®
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I like the idea. Almostricky is already managing a P/R league open to everyone and with excellent level. That's kind of the champions league IMO.
Champions League: 8/29/2019 12:09:38


Lelouch Lamperouge
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Is this Warlight Olympics?
Champions League: 8/29/2019 12:41:54

NoName 2.1
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yes PowerB take a list of all P/R League exist and try to organize on it.

Example list:
- almostricky P/R League
- France P/R League
- FCC P/R League
- Outlaws P/R League
- dd P/R League
- Poland P/R League
- Etc..

only we have to talk about scenarios y modes
Champions League: 8/29/2019 14:29:24


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I was thinking about a similar idea, and I think the best way to do this is to create a Swiss tournament for each major country with -B's CLOT and post all the links on the forum and discords. When the tourney is done, check to see that the top however many are all in the country they say they are, and then make the championship. That seems easier than having to create new P/R leagues for each country. It would also let you do multiple templates with different qualifiers that wouldn't take too many games like a round robin would, since it's the Swiss format. You could do a metal count like in the olympics if you had more templates.
Champions League: 8/29/2019 15:21:50


FalerCZ
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No, this isn't the olympic what wants to create PowerB, if I understand his format well, there would be tournament where each player represent himself and the country, but there aren't any qualification terms.

In my format, I want to use existing P/R leagues (Nationals, not clan's) and let winners play each other. I don't want to intervent to other's P/R leagues, so my opinion is that we decide specific date (eg. once per 3 months) and number of participiants for each country. And each manager for each country would make the criteria for joining the Champions League. The reason of this idea is that I don't want to coordinate all P/R leagues, but that also could means that eg. CZ league would play 2 seasons during the time gap between champions league and FR league would play only 1 season. So it would be on organisator of each league to decide rules.

First step is find to all possible national P/R leagues and their organisators
Second step is deciding format (how many players, what format, what time dates)
Third step is to play first season
Fourth step is to upgrade it :)
Champions League: 8/29/2019 16:45:17


machine-washed bliss
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you could invite the current champ from, say, 16 clans' p/r leagues to battle
Champions League: 8/29/2019 16:51:01


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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HAWKS has a PR league as well. I am the organizer =)
Champions League: 8/29/2019 17:32:48


FalerCZ
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It seems that Clan's Champions League has a greater potentital. I ll find out if there is interest in our clan as well ;)
Champions League: 8/29/2019 17:57:02

NoName 2.1
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Yes! About nations me and my clan can’t do anything so good luck for this new competition. If we want to organize Clans Champions League I’m in ;)
Champions League: 8/29/2019 17:57:47


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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generally interested, but have some doubt about how to get it in the same tact. or how to overcome tact differences
Champions League: 8/29/2019 18:02:03

NoName 2.1
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try that all P/R League be same (same number of players each division, same scenario and template I think)
Champions League: 8/29/2019 18:18:07


FalerCZ
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As I describe earlier, main statement is that P/R leagues won't adapt to Champions League, Champions League must adapt to P/R Leagues.

If all participed clans could say how long take their average season then we can find out when we can play Champions League. You can not synchronize all P/R Leagues. Also in later season we can let participate two best players from each clan what can solve many problems with unsychronized timing.

Bigger question is about templates how to pick them. We could vote for them or we can set up that the winner of previous season would pick next template even if he may not participate
Champions League: 8/29/2019 18:19:37


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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no way. Hawks League is on different template each season.
just would worry if we finish 2 seasons in one period but only have 1 starter. that would be not so nice to decide which one to take the CL spot. if there are more starting spots then seasons we can finish it would be easier to determine starters. then its more similar to CL in soccer
Champions League: 8/29/2019 18:21:18


FalerCZ
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I agree, but I would rather start with smaller number of players as a "test" seasons. But i think we are pointing same way
Champions League: 8/29/2019 18:23:26


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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thats an interesting way to determine the template. i for such let the winner of 2nd highest division chose next seasons template. so its guaranteed its never the same guy, because he is promoting to highest division.and cant win the 2nd division again.

to avoid that the "ultra" player always picks his favourites maybe let the 2nd placed chose the next template. just an idea

Edited 8/29/2019 18:24:21
Champions League: 8/29/2019 18:25:12


FalerCZ
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but i think its solveable :)
Champions League: 8/29/2019 23:32:15


machine-washed bliss
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1 from each clan, 16 players, could make a "europa league" for 2nd from each clan. timings don't have to line up; just whenever you are ready to make them, who was champ at the time. as host you could choose templates or let last season's cometitors choose them. i think this is more viable and easier than dividing nations
Champions League: 8/30/2019 22:04:27

Menda
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+1 to Clans Champions - I can create pr League at my clan but i can't handle and I don't have much time to find all polish players to create "Polish" pr league
Champions League: 8/30/2019 23:19:21

Meldarion
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Clan champions in theory would work, but what about clans that merged P/R's like 101st/Lynx, SNinja/WG, Masters/Apps? The idea needs some more thought.
Champions League: 8/31/2019 21:12:26


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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could be the best player of the clan.

1st Masters
2nd Masters
3rd Apprentice
...

then the 1st feom masters is the one placed 1st and the representative from Apps would be the one placed 3rd.

but this should be the responsibilty of each clan on its own how to determine the representative, not the responsibilty of the Champions league organizator
Champions League: 9/1/2019 03:24:11


FalerCZ
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We have probably specific situation in FCC/Disco, because in Disco are guys who are learning to play and since they would be on level to be able challenge champions from other clans, they would in FCC already.

We gonna have 3 level P/R league in FCC/Disco now and if some guy from Disco manage to get to top division, he automatically became FCC.

What's the situation in other clans? Are those "B" clan players in top divisions of their P/R league? I m asking if we really need to solve the situation in "B" clans

Edited 9/1/2019 03:24:44
Champions League: 9/1/2019 03:26:00


FalerCZ
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And if we need to solve it, then I agree with (ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!!
Champions League: 9/2/2019 10:08:15


FalerCZ
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So if we setup a date (i vote for november/december) and let's say we would like to let play 3 player's from each clan (maybe the 3rd must have to play some pre-eliminating round, depends on numbers), which clans would be interested?

Key for picking those 3 players would be totally in hands of clan's P/R organisators, not in CHL organisator.
Champions League: 9/2/2019 10:16:52

Meldarion
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I mean SNinja/WG do it together because both are too small, and there's definitely good enough players in apps/101st to challenge certain members of lynx/masters. But yeah what let's fight suggests works (:
Champions League: 9/3/2019 19:56:42


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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HAWKS is in
Champions League: 9/3/2019 20:18:40


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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would be awsome if some kind of home game and away game would be implemented within the Champions League.

could be implemented like this
you maybe know this procedure
9 templates are given

player A bans 1 template

player B bans 2 templates

player A bans 1 template

player B picks 1 template to play 1st template

player A picks 1 template to play as 2nd template

player B bans 1 template

player A bans 1 template

now remains 1 template to play as 3rd game if necessary

Edited 9/3/2019 20:21:12
Champions League: 9/4/2019 06:53:10


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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but might be toi timecosuming
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