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Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 14:29:43


Math Wolf 
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Background
As a fan of Clan League, it sometimes pains me to hear many negative comments on the format. While I firmly believe Clan League is the best format for a competitive Clan competition, I nevertheless wanted to start another (additional) competition with a focus on:
* just playing the game with minimal rules.
* creating a fluid ranking for clans.
* allowing clans to join or leave whenever they want.
Note: this is in no way intended to replace Clan League, which provides a more extensive and direct format for clans to battle each other.

Join now!
Please post here if you'd like to join with your clan. If you are a clan leader, add two contacts.
Also let me know if you'd like to help in the organization, which should really not be all that much work.
You can join at ANY time, tournaments will be created around the 15th in "odd" months (January, March, May, July, September, November).

The Format
  • Two clan managers for each clan provide communication
    (Note: I prefer through PM or game with Math Wolf [2])
    https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7636877711
  • Clans are continuously ranked by points scored (more details below).
  • Bragging rights for winning a cup (details below).
Every two months, a new cycle starts with:
  • Two 2v2 single elimination tournaments worth 4 points
  • Four 1v1 single elimination tournaments worth 3 points
  • These are Warzone tournaments without seeding
  • All tournaments have a 3 day boot, vacation NOT allowed. A 5 days banked boot will be included to allow for roughly the equivalent of a single vacation. Also note that auto-commit does NOT break vacation.
  • The 8 slots in each cycle should be taken by minimum 3 different accounts in the clan (clan icon must match on the date of tournament creation) with a maximum of 3 slots per account. Not all 8 slots have to be filled every time by every clan, so feel free to skip tournaments that you don't like.
  • Templates are decided by 6 different clans that are randomly drawn from participating clans. In subsequent months, (1) clans that have the longest time since they previously chose a template and (2) have played the most cycles get priority to pick a template. Templates must have decent strategic quality. A template qualifies if it has been used in a competitive event before or uses standard low-luck settings (e.g. WR or SR, 16% luck or lower, manual picking, cycling move order). We recognize at minimum all official ladders, most Quick Match templates, MDL, previous Clan Leagues, AWP, original Nations Cup and potentially other competitive events from the past and future. Templates can be repeated with one cycle in between.
  • There are no further rules, just play the game. Taking over accounts, using alts, switching clans, playing with different accounts over different seasons, discussing moves with others, playing for different clans, teaming with your alt, ... it's all allowed. You could even use a "Clan account" to play and discuss moves in your clan forum (just don't complain if your opponent has a spy in your clan). Breaking Warzone rules is of course not allowed but will not be penalized by Clan Cup organizers.

Points, ranking, bragging
  • Every tournament is a Cup. Win the tournament to win the Cup. But you keep it only as long as the same template is not reused in a future tournament. If another clan wins a future Clan Cup tournament on this template, they take it.
  • The total points of a clan are calculated as the sum of the points of individual tournaments.
  • The total points of the tournament are the tournament weight (3 (1v1) or 4 (2v2)) multiplied by a recency modifier (e.g. 10 for the most recent, the 10 most recent tournaments count, details below), multiplied by points for the finish (e.g. 50 for winner, details below).
  • Points for the finish are:
    1st: 50
    2nd: 30
    Semi-final: 18
    Quarter-final: 10
    Round of 16: 6
    Round of 32: 3
    Round of 64: 1
    Points are only awarded if the clan produced at least 1 win, byes do not count as wins, opponent boots do.
  • Recency modifier is as follows:
    ongoing: 10
    previous: 10
    2 cycles ago: 9
    3 cycles ago: 7
    4 cycles ago: 5
    5 cycles ago: 3
    6 cycles ago: 2
    7 cycles ago: 2
    8 cycles ago: 1
    9 cycles ago: 1
  • Example: Warzonians lost in the semi-final of a 2v2 tournament. Since then, 3 new cycles of tournaments have been created. Weight=4, Finish=18, recency=7, total points=4*18*7=504.
    Note: max points for a tournament is 4*50*10=2000, max points for a cycle is 10000, max total points is 50000.


Edited 5/11/2019 14:54:58
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 14:29:51


Math Wolf 
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Ranking
 1. LuFredd          00000
 1. Outlaws          00000
 1. Masters          00000
 1. Apprentice       00000
 1. Statisticians    00000
 1. SNinja           00000
 1. ONE!             00000
 1. FCC              00000
 1. Hawks            00000
 1. |GG|             00000
 1. M'Hunters        00000
 1. CORP             00000
 1. {101st}          00000
 1. Avengers         00000
 1. [V.I.W]          00000
 1. USSR             00000
 1. Varangian Guard  00000

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m1LHE-fg8_SjmfsnUWx971-LneIpVGFhMWmFiFftmMI

Cycle 1
1v1 MME
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=29463
1v1 Blitzkrieg Bork
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=29464
1v1 French Brawl
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=29465
1v1 Timid Lands
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=29466
2v2 Szeurope
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=29467
2v2 Volcano Islands
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=29468

Edited 5/15/2019 22:44:38
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 14:30:04

Math Wolf [2] 
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Contacts

{101st}
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7710521647 (Arand0mPlayer)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6146168723 (Derfellios)
Apprentice
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2719017226 (-B)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=9374434686 (Cowboy)
Avengers
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1388752514 (Sakata Gintoki)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=9522268564 (DanWL)
Blitz
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4117039487 (Bananashake)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6319040229 (Jefferspin)
CORP
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4419488318 (dry-clean-only)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3870701119 (Nemo)
Fifth Column Confederation (FCC)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3262000156 (Xenophon)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1669010010 (IRiseYouFall)
|GG|
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7296500493 (ADHDnl)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=9020236167 (linberson)
Hawks
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3223047956 (TurboTT117)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2848139625 ((ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!!)
LuFredd
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=5066537078 (NoName 2.1)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6624490444 (Taji)
Masters
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2214950915 (master of desaster)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=816809922 (Timinator • apex)
M'Hunters
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3428471447 (AyanM)
(secondary contact TBD)
ONE!
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=314032996 (Beren • apex)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1925535805 (PJ)
Outlaws
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6559504553 (Platinum)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=5654719779 (Bonsai)
SNinja
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8136895102 (rakleader)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2863984406 (Waddles)
Statisticians
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=637758013 (Jackie Treehorn)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=253091943 (Math Wolf)
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=5842796420 (Coronel Gavilan)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7943782935 (Prophet)
Varangian Guard
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4984437357 (Cossack Black)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8884712714 (Cipollino)
[V.I.W] Very Important Weirdos
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8916311526 (lineal2012)
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=9581676773 (RED)

Edited 5/13/2019 17:59:46
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 14:30:13


Math Wolf 
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Upcoming schedule:
  • ~ end of May: draw of clans who can decide templates for cycle 2.
  • ~ June 15: deadline for submitting the templates for cycle 2.
  • ~ July 15: tournament creation (cycle 2)

  • ~end of July / September / November / ... - clan draw for template selection
  • ~mid August / October / December / ... - deadline for template submission
  • ~mid September / November / January / ... - tournament creation


Edited 5/15/2019 22:46:31
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 14:30:19

Math Wolf [2] 
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(reserved)
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 15:24:01


😎 Zdravo Prijatelju 😍
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vacation NOT allowed

why?
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 15:34:26


Math Wolf 
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To reduce stalling options. Taking over accounts is allowed after all.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/22/2019 16:18:30


SuperGamerz
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"vacation NOT allowed"

With the new autocommit function, it's not that big of a deal now
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 01:02:57


NoName 2.1
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Lu Fredd join it.

NoName 2.1 - First account
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=5066537078

Taji - Second account
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6624490444
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 01:54:11


Checkmqte
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Is it just a leaderboard, or is there a way to win it? Or does the scoreboard reset every so often? This may have been explained in the original post and I could've just missed it - I was a tad confused, sorry.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 02:20:40


Cowboy 
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I'll see if anyone in Apprentice wants to play. If they do, I'll give the contacts later.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 02:43:40


{101st} Syphen
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I will also ask my clan if they want to join
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 03:13:36


Platinum
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Sign us up, I'll be contact person.

Put Bonsai for secondary contact.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 09:41:42


master of desaster 
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Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 10:05:03

kicorse 
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Best of luck with the competition. It's great to see people coming up with new ideas. I'm not sure whether I would have time for it, but I love the concept except... you are replacing a good way of dealing with the fact that people have lives (vacations) with a terrible one (account-sharing).

Not trying to police account-sharing is fair enough, but this will pressurise people into doing it. They play other competitions and will have a choice between sharing their account, playing when they don't have time to in lots of competitions (not an option if you're somewhere remote without internet), or taking a vacation and booting in yours.

I never join multi-day tournaments in which vacations are not honoured, not even casual ones, and don't think that they should even have that setting available.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 10:42:33


AI 
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The biggest problem with vacations not honored is the fact, that your vacations breaks when you do a turn in a game with vacations not honored.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 11:36:50


linberson 
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Simple solution, use an alt or a shared acc. Enjoy!

edit: AI has experience with that! Harhar! ;)

Edited 4/23/2019 11:37:26
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 11:55:01


Min34 
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Seems like creating special shared accounts for this is the best solution then.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 12:03:40

Meldarion
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@Min we can just use the master account :p
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 12:40:12

Jackie Treehorn 
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Nice! I’ll check with my clan to see if they want to join :)
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 14:58:24


Beren • apex 
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With the new auto commit, I believe you can input your orders and when you would get booted due to being on vacation, they will just be implemented and not end your vacation. So not respecting vacations isn't a huge deal unless you literally don't have access to the internet (which of course does happen for people).
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 16:22:43

-B 
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Apprentice will play

Myself: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2719017226

Cowboy: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=9374434686

Edited 4/23/2019 16:23:09
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 17:44:58


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Would be cool with Single elimination tournament with qualifiers. -B has a CLOT :)
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 19:07:18

-B 
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This is a great idea. Thanks Math! It's always nice to see clans compete in different ways, and get better playing in different formats. Very excited to see how this goes.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 19:18:47


Math Wolf 
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Is it just a leaderboard, or is there a way to win it? Or does the scoreboard reset every so often? This may have been explained in the original post and I could've just missed it - I was a tad confused, sorry.

It continuously updates like a ladder. Points from wins decrease (slowly) over time.

you are replacing a good way of dealing with the fact that people have lives (vacations) with a terrible one (account-sharing).

I am aware and you are right. I never join tournaments without vacations allowed either by the way. However, the alternative is allowing a single person to stall a tournament for 70 days. I know that with vacations honoured, most tournaments would be stalled for quite a while and that goes completely against the concept. I also know that account sharing here could have potential consequences for CL, where I would very much like people to follow the rules, as I am in the audit panel myself.
This was not an easy choice at all, and the one I thought about the longest. It's not the best solution, it's the least bad.

With the new auto commit, I believe you can input your orders and when you would get booted due to being on vacation, they will just be implemented and not end your vacation. So not respecting vacations isn't a huge deal unless you literally don't have access to the internet (which of course does happen for people).

Has it been verified that it doesn't break vacation?

Would be cool with Single elimination tournament with qualifiers. -B has a CLOT :)

While I like seeding myself, it's probably best not to add it to not make things more complex than they need to be.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/23/2019 23:48:42


machine-washed bliss
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nice idea, how about 4 day games or 3 day games with 1 week banked boot time instead of account sharing?
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/24/2019 11:16:01


{101st} Cupcake ^ω^
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Looks really interesting for sure. It's nice to see new a new project comming. Could there be a possibility of a RT games section?

If we 101st and Lynx join Alex will attempt to puppet us all, but we won't ever listen to him. :P

''Breaking Warzone rules is of course not allowed but will not be penalized by Clan Cup organizers.''

So tempting... lol.
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/24/2019 22:00:47


Cowboy 
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I can verify it doesn't break vacations.

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=17836685

Had deployments in while on vacation (thanks guys for screwing up settings), and it autocommited for me. Np vacation broken.

Edited 4/24/2019 22:04:00
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/25/2019 18:38:31


Platinum
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A rough schedule of events available on you @Math Wolf? When should we expect this to start roughly speaking?
Introducing Clan Cup: 4/25/2019 18:41:12


Math Wolf 
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@Platinum: working on it as we speak!
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