the first 5 responses to this thread were surprisingly good. Also anyone else reminded of this thread? (https://www.warzone.com/Forum/258931-fix-western-balkans)

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Heh.

I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but the notion of America being great is a fairy tale limited to the Americas. If I had to choose another country to settle in, your country would not make it into my top 20.

Actually top 20 is harsh, but 15 sounds realistic. I'd move to Sweden before I moved to USA. Coming from a Dane, them's fightin' words.

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Coming from a Dane
That's all we needed to hear.

>Coming from a Dane
>Opinion immediately discarded

he was macedonian

Norman that is incorrect. Unlike Einstein who immigrated in 1933, the vast majority of the Jewish immigrants coming to the U.S. in the late 19th/early 20th century were very poor and unskilled. The U.S. let them in before heavily restricting Jewish immigration in 1924 after the Red Scare.

While some immigrants like Einstein were already skilled, the majority used their determination and hard work to become great. Admittedly, this was impossible for many blacks and Mexicans at the time.

sounds like excuses to me libtard haven't you read the bell curve????????

@Cipollino:

Norman that is incorrect. Unlike Einstein who immigrated in 1933, the vast majority of the Jewish immigrants coming to the U.S. in the late 19th/early 20th century were very poor and unskilled.

I was referring to some of the older times but as a disclaimer, my knowledge kinda comes from popuplar movies.

While some immigrants like Einstein were already skilled, the majority used their determination and hard work to become great. Admittedly, this was impossible for many blacks and Mexicans at the time.

Well, Jews are kinda famous for thriving under difficult cirumstances. In fact your example proves my point, that you can't just make a general ideological statement about immigration being good or bad but that you should be careful which kind of guys you let into your country.

Also you have to take into account that the average John Doe of a country probably doesn't emigrate. With some emigration waves in the past, the most unskilled have left the country. I'm thinking about the Italian hillbillies emigrating to Germany in the 1970s. A classic example of such a hillbilly would be a woman who is now in their 80s, she wanted to leave Germany after a few years but got stuck, she never actually learned German and the third generation after her does piss poor in school, even worse than their parents.

However then again nowadays some extremely high qualified Italians can't find a job in their country and emigrate to Germany. They are doing just fine here and I'm sure their kids will integrate well.

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@Buffalo
@Japanball

Ah yes, argumentum ad hominem. The argumentative form of lesser beings, when actual arguments fail them. I enjoyed you being butthurt, now enjoy all the benefits of living in USA. Oh, wait...

@Sajip

Ah yes, argumentum ad hominem. It's terrible, I agree. The only worse thing in the world is not having a sense of humour.

@Japanball

I am not so arrogant as to actually consider you a lesser being - I used it in a sentence, where I said that ad hominem was for such beings. Essentially I called myself a lesser being. I am sorry, if you do not understand my jokes. Maybe I was right all along.

Mon dieu.

Indeed, he was neither serb or croat.
Was in fact istro-romanian cause of his great-great-grandparents.
He also never denied the posibility of being istro-romanian.

He was a pure Proto-Indo-European-Cro-Magnon-Hunter-Gatherer

"If you are American, there is an 85% chance that your ancestors were immigrants."

85%? Lolno.

There are estimated to be 5 million native Americans in the US. 327 million americans. 98.4% of Americans are not native americans.

That implies that at LEAST 98.4% of people have immigrants as ancestors, except it's surely much more than that because most "native americans" aren't 100% native american.

I can pretty confidently state that if you're an American, there is over a 99% chance that your ancestors were immigrants.

Hell, lets push the logic even further.

If you live in America, or any place that isn't Africa, there is a 100% chance your ancestors were immigrants.

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85%? Lolno.

You seem to forget the fact that there are African-Americans whose ancestors were slaves forcefully brought here, not as immigrants, and also Mexicans living in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and California when those areas were part of Mexico and not the U.S.

Also, the true number is likely closer to 97% due to interracial marriage as you said, but I wanted to go for a conservative estimate and err on the side of caution.

sounds gay

The anti-Mexican and muslim rhetoric we see from Trump is *exactly* like the anti-Irish rhetoric in the 19th century:

"They are poor, disease-ridden. Their going to take our jobs and welfare. They practice an alien religion and pledge allegiance to a foreign leader. They're criminals, rapists."

exactly the same.

Then the Irish assimilated and started hating on the Italians.

Today the assimilated Latinos hate on the ones in the caravans. The cycle continues.

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