I LOST A GAME this cannot be [hunches over and wrings hands]

fizzer darling, please keep ffa and autodistribution, just to annoy szeweningen

i got in my autodistribution game a triple pick on scandinavia with my opponent being in the 3rd bonus next to it

Local Deployment templates,ffa, light fog and auto-distribution seem to be the templates which people want out, i only really dislike local deployment and the ffa of the three, but something for fizzer to think about. Also he could use the suggestions for the next seasonal in the RT ladder to reduce hate on the templates, using more "normal" 1v1 templates at the beginning and then adding other ones later after asking on the forums would be a good idea imo.

by the way, great ladder!

Edited 3/20/2014 22:42:08

"TrueSkill Standard Deviation: 145.33" - so close!

X is #1! woot

Not anymore

it took me 12 hours but i did it. now im finally ready to die

gambler, we are joint 1st when rounded to 0 significant figures. also if you round to the nearest zero

Edited 3/21/2014 00:15:38

haha :) i think i will be the third one today :)

I just refreshed the ratings by running every game from scratch. Most people didn't move much or at all, but a couple people that played early games before the bugfix moved a lot. Here are the current numbers: (note this doesn't apply the StdDev<145 requirement to get a rank, so these ranks aren't actual ranks, they're just showing the order of ratings)

Rank Player                  Rating     Wins Losses Mean      StdDev
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1    Gambler                 1558.19    16   5     +1989.52  +143.77
2    Master Bjarke           1552.35    10   1     +2174.72  +207.45
3    Timinator               1536.2     7    0     +2283.75  +249.18
4    13CHRIS37               1502.93    10   2     +2006.25  +167.77
5    Lord Syvedyas           1450.75    5    0     +2299.15  +282.79
6    Krzychu                 1449.14    12   6     +1901.38  +150.74
7    {rp} GeneralGror        1430.0     13   9     +1798.37  +122.76
8    TheWarlightMaster       1409.0     6    0     +2227.8   +272.92
9    szeweningen             1403.52    12   5     +1873.3   +156.59
10   unknownsoldier          1354.66    2    0     +2305.55  +316.96
11   begggah                 1279.11    4    3     +1899.27  +206.72
12   Summer                  1257.0     4    2     +1922.32  +221.76
13   wakanarai               1201.28    2    1     +2029.45  +276.0
14   ?eneral ?run {Warlighte 1195.27    3    2     +1915.79  +240.17
15   Hennns                  1190.51    5    2     +1892.11  +233.86
16   CONQUISTADORS           1184.77    5    2     +1810.77  +208.66
17   Frankdeslimste  apex   1183.12    4    1     +1968.81  +261.89
18   ultimaratio             1179.8     6    5     +1688.45  +169.55
19   Panda                   1131       6    1     +1857.63  +242.21
20   Bigchps147              1107.58    5    1     +1942.89  +278.43
21   simpro                  1063.87    6    7     +1580.88  +172.33
22   Ruthless Bastard        1043.12    3    3     +1744.96  +233.94
23   ?§IRIÜS?      1038.59    9    13    +1467.82  +143.0
24   FlyingBender            1030.84    3    1     +1857.95  +275.7
25   Grievous_II             1028.91    4    1     +1793.42  +254.83
26   Lolowut  apex          935.38     4    2     +1608.75  +224.45
27   TomTrix                 921.83     5    10    +1363.61  +147.25
28   querulant               899.97     2    1     +1807.12  +302.38
29   Odin                    891.26     3    2     +1663.59  +257.44
30   [Lynx] Hauptmann        868.35     4    9     +1348.0   +159.9
31   AWESOMEGUY              858.34     3    8     +1371.35  +171
32   Jehovah                 851.17     0    1     +1717.59  +288.8
33   [REGL]Min34             823.99     0    2     +1697.0   +291.0
34   Memele                  796.16     1    1     +1840.28  +348.0
35   marc2013                792.3      2    4     +1481.3   +229.66
36   Vanellope von Schweetz  748.23     2    4     +1480.93  +244.23
37   fwiw                    727.99     1    7     +1305.83  +192.61
38   Khalid                  727.15     2    0     +1836.75  +369.86
39   [WM] Gnuffone           721.49     2    1     +1640.0   +306.17
40   Garrett                 719.56     2    1     +1483.96  +254.8
41   hedja                   695.4      2    2     +1517.68  +274.0
42   RaZ                     687.96     1    0     +1899.14  +403.72
43   Mulva                   682.68     5    19    +1112.19  +143.17
44   verve                   662.84     4    6     +1248.39  +195.18
45   Master Miyagi  apex    662.76     1    1     +1677.43  +338.22
46   UnlimitedLawlz          620.95     1    3     +1396.57  +258.54
47   The Swimming Potato     540        3    9     +1101.0   +187
48   Master Ree              531.58     1    1     +1588.33  +352.24
49   Thánatos           488.1      1    1     +1513.85  +341.91
50   nich                    472.88     1    0     +1763.74  +430.28
51   Apollo                  429.64     2    3     +1244.47  +271.61
52   Fizzer                  420.55     1    2     +1383.15  +320.86
53   Spectre                 382.83     0    2     +1264.25  +293.8
54   Kantos                  371.74     1    1     +1281.0   +303.11
55   Jefferspin              369.55     1    1     +1497.25  +375.9
56   Riyamitie               361.4      1    1     +1371.5   +336.69
57   Omega                   356.43     1    3     +1240.35  +294.64
58   Veelvraat               291.96     1    2     +1157.14  +288.39
59   {DARK} That Guy         287.31     1    1     +1258.19  +323.62
60   jura                    281.75     1    4     +1021.45  +246.56
61   Mr. Gentleman*SEAHAWKSW 257.15     0    1     +1161.97  +301.6
62   Doewolf                 201        0    4     +949.93   +249.64
63   Heyheuhei               195.14     1    5     +987.2    +264.0
64   rocky1                  84.87      0    2     +1183.47  +366.2
65   mkonyn                  74.85      0    2     +1207.29  +377.47
66   New Leaf                62.0       0    1     +1338.94  +425.63
67   cardsfan04              61.31      0    1     +1319.95  +419.54
68   [TWI] Traintown         59.47      0    1     +1354.29  +431.6
69   Green                   51.24      0    1     +1382.98  +443.91
70   Verzehrer               47.62      0    1     +1371.82  +441.4
71   Mirror                  46.46      0    1     +1366.76  +440.0
72   EagleBlast              46.38      0    6     +891.87   +281.83
73   NoobSchool (AHoL)  ape 25.12      0    1     +1130.72  +368.53
74   [REGL] Pooh             21.86      0    3     +1109.32  +362.48
75   Bananashake             -25.6      0    2     +1049.39  +358.33
76   mammonjr                -32.42     0    5     +863.61   +298.68
77   Ottarinn                -37.39     0    1     +1194.99  +410.79
78   Cavaliers_RedBloodyKill -38.89     0    1     +1142.78  +393.89
79   ps                      -54.61     0    1     +1236.25  +430.28
80   Michael                 -54.61     0    1     +1236.25  +430.28
81   Gnullbegg               -54.61     0    1     +1236.25  +430.28
82   Vadas                   -54.61     0    1     +1236.25  +430.28
83   worldtraveller          -56.15     0    3     +972.62   +342.92
84   Ema20                   -61.97     0    1     +1068.81  +376.93
85   <SNinja> almosttr -91.92     0    1     +1022.18  +371.37
86   lawm                    -102.79    0    2     +796.38   +299.72
87   jakiller33              -149.26    0    2     +861.92   +337.0

Edited 3/21/2014 05:17:05

#46 that's awesome =w=

Edited 3/21/2014 05:22:22

hey!!! who is number 23? O.O (scared)

FYI: Based on the advice of Math Wolf, I tweaked ratings formula again. The default mean was raised from 1500 to 2000. I also re-ran all of the games from scratch using this new formula and updated the ratings to reflect that.

Because of this, you should see rating numbers be about 500 higher than they were before. It should be far less likely to go negative now, too.

A couple of requests:

-Add to community page.
-Make it easier to Join/Leave the ladder, from App too. Clicking Community, Ladders, RT Ladder, Join is a lot to do just to play a game.
-Make it so you can only join the ladder for X games as an option. This way, if I know i only have time for 1 game, let me just join for my first match, then as soon as it starts, auto-pull from ladder. If I want to play again, then go for it.
-5 min autoboot is harsh. 5 min direct and 10 min auto may be a lot more civilized.
-Please don't have boots before joins count against. In a scenario where someone get's pulled away from the game for 10 minutes they not only automatically lose the game they were in, but they lose the next one too.

No 10 min boot please. I think FFA are also bad idea in real time. How many will be decided by boots and huge balance swings?

I think real rime ladder is great idea, but games should not be more than an hour long or have settings that make them that way. Sure, you can have RT games that are longer, but please not on a ladder or too many will be decided by boots

Please stick to 5 min boot. I prefer fast games; slow turns are for multiday.

I'm in favor of an 8 minute auto-boot, but 10 is too much!

8-minute auto-boot won't help me when I forget that I'm still in the RT ladder when I don't get a game within 10 minutes.

Aren't we supposed to start with a rating of 1500? http://warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=4312 I won one game and it shows I've gone down to 1403 how does that work?

5 min is perfect. not too long nor to short.

This ladder has an obvious malfunction in it.
Players on vacation cannot be booted.

Also some players still seem to be starting with a rating of 0. (unless the ones with 1500 are wrong now?)

Edited 3/22/2014 03:42:47