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Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 07:17:49


Norman 
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The following lays out the scenarios in which a clan's spot could change hands:

If a clan X retains active players who accounted for one third of their slots (6/18) and one third of their scored points then it is guaranteed to retain its spot.

If clan X splits and X does not retain both one third of their slots and of their points, another new clan Y can claim the spot if they have active players accounting for one third of that clan's slots and points. If X didn't meet the requirements, while two different clans Y and Z do and both claim the spot then the spot is awarded to neither clan and both must start from the bottom.

Say, Clan X got 90pts and needs 30pts to retain its spot in CL9. Player A, B and C played on a 3v3 tournament where they won 15pts but now only Player A is left in Clan X. In this case player A would account for 5 points(not 15)

If a player goes AWOL (or is suspended from CL), he doesn't count toward meeting the 1/3 of players requirement. None of the points he won count either. If this player was on a team, the points will be pro-rated.


I don't know exactly what this stuff means regarding Blitz and Masters, however Blitz taking over Masters slot would be quite a joke to the competitive promotion relegation system imo. M'Hunters had to work hard in order to get their 3 promotions in a row and then stay in A while these guys just come out of nowhere and spam some trolly poaching games (https://www.warzone.com/Forum/323969-blitz).

Outlaws taking over 101st spot --> The whole competitive community switched from one clan to another, leaving 101st without any competitive players to play in A of whom none contributed to the promotion.

Blitz taking over Masters spot --> Masters clan very much still exists but just some clanhoppers switched their clan.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 07:30:30


Farah♦ 
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Nice job sneaking in a new rule seemingly out of thin air about how to take over a clan league spot from a new clan.

Here's the CL9 sheet, rule has been in effect ever since you guys took over from 101st:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P43KefXKdljuE2F8ZHSIQUrh9PHJ5co3oteiZ6E_8FA/pubhtml#
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 08:38:34


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Is it correct that from Division B only 1 clan relegate (see spreadsheet/sign-ups) or is this to be fixed?

Edit: found out that group size of B was 6 only in CL 10 instead of 7.

Does that mean that whoever signs up until 13th NWO will also plays in B now to fill this group?

Edited 1/9/2019 08:48:21
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 08:51:35


Bonsai 
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Well, if it's been there, then my mistake I guess.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 12:05:24


Farah♦ 
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It's still fair to argue against the rule, just not on the basis that Tbest sneaked it in :)
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 17:04:09


Master Meldarion 
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@let's fight, the slots for B are (if everyone joins back):

Apprentice
101st
VS
GG
Statisticians
Hydra
FCC

So until sign-up is closed the slots are reserved for those 7 clans (:
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 17:53:13


ChrisCMU 
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There was never been any slot swappings like that before CL 9

The closest thing I can think of would be when the clan CPU basically disappeared. Their members went to BIA (5 or 6?), WG (2), I think a couple went other places like XS maybe. But BIA took their spot because most of their members went there.

At any rate, CPU basically didn't exist anymore. When most of the 101st CL players formed Lynx, we DID NOT give Lynx the 101st slot, even though probably %90 of their point earners moved to Lynx.

Also, note that it says "if the clan splits" and another "new clan" ends up with their members. It doesn't say everyone can move to another existing clan and that clan gets the slot.

Also, he had the rule that you can't play for a different clan in consecutive leagues anyway. So if everyone moved to another clan, they would get the slot (I suppose) but then those players could not even compete for that other clan anyway (so do they count towards that slot at all?).

My point is that if you eliminate movement restrictions (and people can play for a different clan back to back), then the rule allowing for swapping slots is completely out of date. You can't revise one without revising the other.

Edited 1/9/2019 18:07:12
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 18:06:06


ChrisCMU 
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"Clan movement rules have been relaxed when moving back and forth between two clans. If a player played for Clan X in CL 9 and moved to clan Y in CL 10, then they can not represent Clan X in CL 11. This rule is meant to stop free movement of players and restrict the advantages gained via allied clans (For ex - Miyagi for Masters/Apex, Lynx/101st, Masters/Apprentice, GG/GGr etc)."

Allied clans isn't the only way people can take advantage. Your rule allows for someone to play for Clan X in 10, Clan Y in 11, Clan Z in 12. So if their clan gets demoted, they could just move to another clan in a higher division every season and the player will never be demoted.

Why have promotion/demotion system if people can just skirt it?
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 21:15:50


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This discussion doesn't need to take place unless Blitz actually does make a claim for Master's spot. The time for rule changes was before Clan League 11 kicked off, rule changes now will only further unsettle things. As far as I can see this is a discussion about a hypothetical scenario that hasn't happened yet.

I just need 1 more player from Outlaws with 3 slots and the mighty Darklords are in A.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 21:24:38


Norman 
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Afaik Blitz is indeed trying to get Masters spot. I'm not sure if everybody involved takes this completely seriously though :)
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 21:26:45


Rento 
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Can we stop whining? This rule has been around for 2 years.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/9/2019 22:04:18


TBest 
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Ay, rule can be traced back to this forum post https://www.warzone.com/Forum/218347-clan-league-update

I generally agree that the rule can be improved and it will for next CL. I think it's fair to say that when written the rule was not considering something similar to today's situation. Changing an old and established rule suddenly right before the signups end is just not the right way to alter rules. That being said, I do encourage any clan who wish to use this rule for CL 11 to go well above the minimum requirement.

Does that mean that whoever signs up until 13th NWO will also plays in B now to fill this group?

It's a bit hard to speculate Clans for B when A is not settled yet and signups are open. Thru it is possible that there will be extra promotions if needed.

Someone asked about Discord too. I don't have the time to manage/moderate one more Discord server, however I am sure the owner of the CL 10 discord is happy to pass it on if anyone wants to moderate it and go and asks for it.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/10/2019 03:39:28


ChrisCMU 
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I guess i missed what started this talk. What is going on with masters and blitz?
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/10/2019 16:31:10


Jefferspin 
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Nothing is going on with masters and blitz. People are getting worked up over nothing. Where did this even come from?

Edit: Norman I expect it from you, so you are in the clear.

Edited 1/10/2019 16:31:33
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/10/2019 17:03:48


Farah♦ 
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Blitz is hereby trying to take over M'Hunters' spot for CL11.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/11/2019 00:37:40


TBest 
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As a heads up to all clan. I intend to get CL 11 started ASAP, which means an ambitious goal of the first tournament being created on 2/1. It's recommended that the clan's start working on who is going to be on their roster at this time.

I am currently working on the schedule for CL 11. It will be posted right after signups ends. If you have any opinions regarding the schedule or want to see a (extremely highly subject to change) preliminary schedule please contact me.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/11/2019 05:12:27


ChrisCMU 
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Same number of templates and template limits, right?
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/11/2019 18:56:52


TBest 
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Correct.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/13/2019 03:17:09


TBest 
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Reminder that template and signup deadlines are close.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 1/13/2019 19:47:37


Muli 
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The announcement thread and and the sign up thread are stating different deadlines.

Announcements
Sign Ups ~ Until Jan. 13th

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The deadline for sign-up is two weeks from the time of this post. [in around 49 hours from now]
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