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Religion: 4/28/2018 04:32:03


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Actually, if you read more about the Galileo thing, Even Wikipedia, which can be edited by anyone and would most likely be open to falsehoods of any kind, admits that it was not because the Catholics were scientifically backward; This was the reason:
"Galileo defended heliocentrism based on his astronomical observations of 1609 (Sidereus Nuncius 1610). In December 1613, the Grand Duchess Christina of Florence [not the Church] confronted one of Galileo's friends... with biblical objections to the motion of the earth... Prompted by this incident, Galileo wrote a letter to [his friend] in which he argued that heliocentrism was actually not contrary to biblical texts, and that the bible was an authority on faith and morals, not on science. This letter was not published, but circulated widely.

By 1615, Galileo's writings on heliocentrism had been submitted to the Roman Inquisition by Father Niccolo Lorini, who claimed that Galileo and his followers were attempting to reinterpret the Bible, which was seen as a violation of the Council of Trent and looked dangerously like Protestantism." You bet it did ;)
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei#Controversy_over_heliocentrism

[When I cut out some things (seen by ...), it was the things I considered unimportant, secondary details. If you want to see what you missed, check for yourself.
Religion: 4/28/2018 04:33:06


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This is where I, after 2 hours of refuting, drop the mic. Until someone else says something.
Religion: 4/28/2018 04:47:49


Жұқтыру
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Even Wikipedia, which can be edited by anyone and would most likely be open to falsehoods of any kind


Actually Wikipedia is far better than most online sources. You can discuss edits or dubious claims/sources, with anyone. It's easier to slip up when you're writing alone. Big articles like this one this applies to the most. They are the most watched, any errors will be noticed very fast. And it's not open for everyone to edit, at least the one you listed.

Past that, there are several other antivandalism/dubiousness measures. The articles that have generated the few vandalism events have all been small, little-visited pages.

I hate the "Wikipedia is DEVIL" case uninformed folk try to push sometimes.
Religion: 4/28/2018 05:42:20


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@thelegend -

[1] "I will acknowledge I don't really know a lot about Buddhism" - you should not disparage something you dont know about in public. Your entire assessment is based on a visit to a monastery and you being unable to comprehend what they are saying.. make sure to be careful not to air uninformed opinions in the future.

[2] "Case 2: I don't know what all that stuff about "disadvantage" - the point is that the baby born to a mother who is likely to be killed is then disadvantaged compared with all other babies, because it has no chance to go to heaven in Case 2.. so there is blatant injustice..

[3] Take a moment to hear Bertrand Russell's thoughts on the subject: https://users.drew.edu/jlenz/whynot.html . It is quite apparent that he is uninformed about other faiths, but it is equally apparent that he is well informed about Christianity.

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Religion: 4/28/2018 11:49:25


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@90

Sorry... you are assuming that it is a God created system when it is created because of man's fall.

More in depth answer later discussing different points as well (because i dont want to make an uninformed argument)

Edited 4/28/2018 12:16:31
Religion: 4/28/2018 12:16:01


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@Buffalo

Things like flat earth are not part of doctrine of Christianity as they are basically irrelevant in terms of theology. It is like saying, is there a political group that supports how a certain English word is spelt? No, because it is irrelevant in terms of politics. However, the individual politicians may have different views on how the word is spelt. In the same way, some misinformed people in Christianity may believe the Earth is flat, however, it has absolutely nothing at all to do with Christian doctirne
Religion: 5/1/2018 21:50:35


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Good. I think i've decided on being a Flat-Earth Scientologist Catholic.
Religion: 5/1/2018 23:13:24


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@thelegend, do you agree that Jesus also accept people who only believe what can be seen?

Thomas was a close friend and disciple of Jesus while he lived, but this practical man simply did not believe the other apostles when they said that Jesus was risen from the dead. Jesus appeared to him and showed him the wounds left by the nails and the spear. 'Now do you believe?' asked Jesus.

Thomas believed only afther he saw with his own eyes that Jesus was risen from the dead.

Jesus didn't seem to blame him for only believing what he saw with his own eyes. So following Jesus example, Christians should not blame people for not believing in a god that can't be seen, right? Maybe even going as far as saying that God just made some people unable to believe in things that can not be seen?
Religion: 5/2/2018 00:08:22


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The verse you are quoting is

"John 20:28-30 King James Version (KJV)
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:"

blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

In here it doesnt say "blessed are those who do not believe"

And no God didnt make some people unable to believe in Him

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Religion: 5/2/2018 00:37:44


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"And no God didnt make some people unable to believe in Him " well, it sure seems that way to me. I tried very hard to believe in God, but I can't force myself into believing. I first was honest about not being able to believe and seeking help, later I tried by saying out loud that I believe and acted accordingly for years, but that also didn't help. Lastly I tried to talk it straight by thinking that Jesus also didn't seem to blame Thomas for not believing because he had not seen...
Religion: 5/2/2018 06:59:43


Thessalos54[TPBI]
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Fair enough

If you are still religious, i would happily have a private pm about it
Religion: 5/2/2018 08:20:15


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He who seeks to define God is already an atheist

Spengler
Religion: 5/2/2018 11:28:38


Cata Cauda
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Why do I hear about so many people who try hard to believe in a god? Why do you feel the need to believe in something only because many other people do it too? Geniously curious.
Religion: 5/2/2018 12:23:36


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@Cata, believing in God can bring a lot of psychological benefits and greatly improve your mental health. This has been proven by many studies. That's my reason for trying my best to believe in a higher power and the afterlife, but till now I haven't succeed. :( I tend to blame my parents for always giving nonsensical answers to every question I asked them, making me very sceptical from an early age.
Religion: 5/2/2018 12:40:30


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I'm trying to post an answer...
Religion: 5/2/2018 12:42:23


LND 
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Bother. It won't post my big answer for some reason.
Religion: 5/2/2018 12:43:23


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Stay tuned. It's coming. Eventually.
Religion: 5/2/2018 12:46:39


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Wow. It post's these ones, but not my copyandpasted big one. :(
Religion: 5/2/2018 12:52:32


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This sucks. Every time I try to send the big one, it just says "WZ can't connect. Check your internet." MY INTERNET'S WORKING, YOU SILLY THING!
Religion: 5/2/2018 13:07:34


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Yep. Nope, it won't send a long message tonight. You'll have to wait till tomorrow...
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