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American Media Bias: 3/30/2018 18:36:56


Clint Eastwood
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American social media/mainstream news bias against conservatives. Does it exist, or is it mass paranoia on the part of conservatives? Discuss.

Note that this is not a debate over whether liberal or conservative values are right; this is merely a debate about whether or not mainstream news outlets and social media are biased against conservatives.

Also note that I mean American news, as I'm not too familiar with the news outlets in other countries.
American Media Bias: 3/30/2018 19:28:16


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It's a world-wide meme that everyone thinks the media is biased against them.

It's not like liberals in the US haven't complained about conservative media bias in the past, no?
American Media Bias: 3/30/2018 22:47:40

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^^Define "conservative" please. The main issue with the traditional left-right distinction is that they are not very clear.
American Media Bias: 3/31/2018 00:05:50


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Of course they are biased against conservatives. We can throw Facebook, Google, and youtube in there as well.
American Media Bias: 3/31/2018 22:50:58


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The US mainstream media isn't liberal; it's authoritarian and marxist. The actual liberals wanted decentralized government, right to private property, and freedom from the old feudal social order.
American Media Bias: 4/1/2018 17:21:09


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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How to watch US mainstream media?
American Media Bias: 4/3/2018 00:29:41


OxTheAutist 
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yep us media is marxist mmmmhmmmm true facts
American Media Bias: 4/3/2018 01:06:57

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American social media/mainstream news bias against conservatives. Does it exist, or is it mass paranoia on the part of conservatives? Discuss.

Note that this is not a debate over whether liberal or conservative values are right; this is merely a debate about whether or not mainstream news outlets and social media are biased against conservatives.

Also note that I mean American news, as I'm not too familiar with the news outlets in other countries.

I think a better question is whether A, Do major news sources in US have a bias? If yes, in what direction is that bias?

You put social media and mainstream news kinda as the same thing up there? Why, to me they are two superdiffrent things, as I never check social media for news myself.

In order to answer the question, we first have to go with major news sources. For example, Washington Post, CNN and Fox News as they are well know.

Fox News has for as long as I can remember, been considered as an untrustworthy news sources that is frequently accused of performing inaccurate reporting and presenting a certain viewpoint that seems to align with a conservative viewpoint. That being said, they have actually criticized Trump several times. In the places I grew up in, Fox News have always been considered as a good example of biased reporting. It's know as a conservative news outlet, no doubt.

WP. Well, after the election they changed their tagline to Democracy Dies in Darkness. Quite openly anti-trump. That being said, in general they report fair and factual on what events have occurred. I don't think they report biased news. That being said, it's located around DC, hence it's local readers are likely to be Democrats. Possible some slight inherent bias, however you can trust that they report and write in a factual manner.

CNN. Well, they used to be good I think. Now I think they have been accused several times for inaccurate reporting. CNN has taken a turn for a more sensational headlines outlet and quite frankly, on controversial issues they are likely pushing one viewpoint. I would try to avoid citing them, so yeah. Kinda heading towards the Fox News box, but the opposite end.

I am not sure about where this mass paranoia comes from tbh. But then again, I don't live in a conservative place and well, no-one around here saw Trump happening.

In general Social Media algorithms tend to create 'bubbles' where your own opinions gets reflected by what the algorithms shows you. Hence they enforce your own beliefs. Thus, yes they are biased towards whatever you want to think.

Edited 4/3/2018 01:07:10
American Media Bias: 4/3/2018 01:29:48


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>everyone to the right of Stalin is a NAZI

>THE MEDIA? MARXIST? I SHALL THINK NOT!

ok ox
American Media Bias: 4/3/2018 16:35:29


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American Media Bias: 4/3/2018 18:34:16


Cata Cauda
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You know, if you are not satisfied with your country's news, you can always, like you know, get your news from foreign sources.
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 02:12:11

TBest 
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^Not a bad approach. Assuming you have access to foreign sources. Take Palestinian/Israel news. Always biased reporting there, with international reports often being based on local sources.
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 08:49:12


Clint Eastwood
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You know, if you are not satisfied with your country's news, you can always, like you know, get your news from foreign sources.

Yeah. Genius. Because I only want to hear what other countries have to say about American politics.
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 09:08:46


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I see you are not familiar with the concept of getting your news from multiple sources.

Why am I not surprised?
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 14:28:50


Clint Eastwood
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No, I entirely am. But foreign does not equal multiple. I can get news from multiple sources without having to be lectured about our politics by foreigners. I mean, would you want to read about Austrian news from an American source?
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 14:59:50

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No, I entirely am. But foreign does not equal multiple. I can get news from multiple sources without having to be lectured about our politics by foreigners. I mean, would you want to read about Austrian news from an American source?

I haven't read Austrian news about US, but infrequently read German as well as Norwegian papers on what US is doing. In many cases I find them more informative then their US counterparts. Not only the great comedic value of having experts trying to explain how Trump won, but also trying to explain his tweets :D (But for real, international media is always worth a read. Take for example Europeans reaction to the trade tax. Or their perspective on US daily? shooting news. Pretty good coverage on Police brutality and US poverty as well.)

Sure don't read them for news on whether that local bridge needs upgrading, but US has a lot of.....issues... that european media loves to cover in debt. Oh and this too. Yeah, the picture explains why quite well.

American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 15:19:15


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RT is best international news source. Far superior to European news.
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 16:16:30


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RT is European news. Not the type of European News i prefer, but others here do of course.
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 17:17:48


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I mean, would you want to read about Austrian news from an American source?

I actually prefer foreign news over domestic ones, when it comes to Austrian politics. Not only are the much less biased (in the case of Austria there is probably no bias at all, since barely any US-American could even find Austria on a map, even if it was a map of Austria), but they also stick to the truly relevant topics. For example if some politican has a typo in some tweet, domestic news would lose their mind, but foreign ones dont care at all (see Trump, and covfefe). Thats not the kind of reporting I want.
American Media Bias: 4/4/2018 17:18:56


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RT is best international news source. Far superior to European news.

RT is Russian.
American Media Bias: 4/5/2018 06:26:51


Clint Eastwood
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since barely any US-American could even find Austria on a map


You watch too much YouTube. Most Americans can identify most basic countries. Most people who can't are ignorant city goers from LA and NY. I mean, I'm just a young guy from rural Oklahoma, and I can successfully identify every country, save for a few Caribbean islands.

The idea that Americans can't find Austria on a map, true or not, isn't even relevant to the conversation. You just enjoy making digs at Americans at every given opportunity.

Can the average Austrian identify every US state? I'm gonna wager no (and that is an entirely fair comparison, as most states are similar in size, and there's roughly the same number of states as there are countries in Europe).

Point is, it's irrelevant to the topic at hand, and we're all getting tired of this anti-US rhetoric. We get it, you hate us. Let it die.
American Media Bias: 4/5/2018 06:35:32


Clint Eastwood
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As for those of you saying media bias doesn't exist: explain, then, how the YouTube shooter--who was a female, Muslim, vegan, liberal, animal rights activist, PETA member, who used a 9mm (not an AR-15) in a gun free zone, in a state with already-strict gun laws--has received next to no media coverage?
American Media Bias: 4/5/2018 11:33:07


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You watch too much YouTube.

And you like to stereotype people, while critising me for doing so. I dont watch YT at all.

Besides Clint, can you and the average US-American identify every Chinese province? I am gonna wager no. And thats more than a fair comparison, since most of them have the population and GDP of entire countries.

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American Media Bias: 4/5/2018 13:29:15

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^Can you identify every Felinian Reichgau or Qaclostani Ustan?

Edited 4/5/2018 13:31:22
American Media Bias: 4/5/2018 13:55:38


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and that is an entirely fair comparison, as most states are similar in size, and there's roughly the same number of states as there are countries in Europe

It's not though. Europe is not a single country and never acts as one, even EU members have their own foreign policies, own currencies and so on. US on the other hand. If anything, a comparison would be between states of US and German Bundesländer. Or states of US and federal subjects of Russia.

Edited 4/5/2018 13:56:55
American Media Bias: 4/5/2018 15:48:36


Clint Eastwood
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I believe it is, given the vast size, influence, and popularity of the US. But that's beside the point. I already said it was irrelevant, but that's the only topic people are addressing.
American Media Bias: 4/6/2018 04:47:09


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Russia is thankfully not wh*Te (HAPA Eurasian National Bolshevism NOW)
American Media Bias: 4/6/2018 06:06:00


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RT is best international news source.


Just a stream of minor terrible events in America and Britain in RT English.

RT Français is rather more balanced, however, and I hear RT Español is the same.

Not only are the much less biased (in the case of Austria there is probably no bias at all, since barely any US-American could even find Austria on a map, even if it was a map of Austria), but they also stick to the truly relevant topics.


This is true. Problem is finding foreign news that cares about your country AND writes in a language you can read (and if your country is caught up in something that is leading everyone to care about it, chances are there will have to be some bias).

the YouTube shooter--who was a female, Muslim, vegan, liberal, animal rights activist, PETA member, who used a 9mm (not an AR-15) in a gun free zone, in a state with already-strict gun laws--has received next to no media coverage


why is this important? but when it first happened Meduza (Russian news) had an URGENT NEWS about it, which is the most that really should be for such a rather insignificant event.

I already said it was irrelevant, but that's the only topic people are addressing.


yeah it's irrelevant. hold on let me write 8 sentences replying one minor quip you said.

In many cases I find them more informative then their US counterparts. Not only the great comedic value of having experts trying to explain how Trump won, but also trying to explain his tweets :D


Germany and Norway are too allied with America to be much better. But yeah, I hear in EU they love to forget on their own problems and focus on America and Russia.

WP. Well, after the election they changed their tagline to Democracy Dies in Darkness.


Ironically, when I first visited that website and saw that motto, I was using dark theme. Fitting.

Edited 4/6/2018 06:11:28
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