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Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/5/2017 22:02:25


Padraig
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The short version of the story: Spanish national police kick and drag people by the hair, who wished to vote in a non-binding referendum on independence for Catalan.

Commentary is given on the relation between Catalan and the other regions of Spain, and the national government.

The video is by Jimmy Dore who is a leftist political commentator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=DfwzUpR1Bqo

Edited 10/7/2017 03:02:04
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/5/2017 23:34:23


Wulfhere
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I remember Sargon making fun of Jimmy Dore
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 06:32:02


Japanball
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*leftist
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 15:35:21


Dutch Desire
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Police just did there job in holding law and order.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 16:20:38


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Which in this case was the morally wrong thing. Shame. Also it was stupid, having the opposite effect their supirors wanted. Double sad.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 17:00:50


Eklipse
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Catalonia was violating Spanish law, but the central government overreacted to the extreme.

Lots of bad moves on both sides.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 17:07:05


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Ditto.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 18:48:06


Wulfhere
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The best move would have been allowing the referendum but refusing to recognize it's legitimacy.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 20:26:31

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APsHNIrS7-s

yeah, throwing around and beating up people was certainly the right thing to do!
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 20:43:09


OxTheAutist 
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just let them be free if they want to be free

it's not that difficult
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 20:50:02


ᚾᛁᚢᚱᛏ 
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I bet that Spain will win. From Google Translate of Spanish newspapers it seems that Spain is pushing businesses to leave Catalonia. This is just the first step.

Not all Catalans hate Spain or want to leave it.




but now they will

Edited 10/6/2017 20:52:08
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 20:54:55


ᚾᛁᚢᚱᛏ 
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politics are not fought with the military, if they deploy the army then at some time(not now) they will lose
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 20:59:28


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yes look at all of the european colonies and the soviet union and and and.....

ooh a city yes yes yes. then your right ofc a single example then ofc your right

Edited 10/6/2017 21:00:59
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 21:01:57


OxTheAutist 
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By being sufficiently harsh you mean more than this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

if you really think the Spanish government would go further than this then you're delusional
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 21:02:02


ᚾᛁᚢᚱᛏ 
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i dont really know, do you mean a genocide? because that is the only thing that is harsher then what i mentioned
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 21:02:56


ᚾᛁᚢᚱᛏ 
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come on ox, thats nothing
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 21:03:44


OxTheAutist 
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also... Srebenica is in Bosnia & Herzegovina, jus' sayin'.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 21:05:43


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If you exterminate every single person of ethnicity A then the A identity will be gone. Period.
.If you exterminate every single person of ethnicity A then the A identity will be gone. Period.



sure they could kill all 9 million catalans
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 21:06:46


OxTheAutist 
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you've absolutely failed to prove why repression works. On the one hand, there's the evidence of the Soviet Union falling, as well as Western Imperialism. Your argument is "there's this one town in this one country that's not exactly Serbia, but it's in the part of another country that's sympathetic to Serbia and the town has a lot of Serbs in it, but not quite the majority".

which side holds more weight?
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 22:05:18


Eklipse
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Brutal force is not necessary. Strangling their economy and isolating them politically will break independence movements all the same.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 22:16:47


ᚾᛁᚢᚱᛏ 
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they have failed to do that for the last 300 years, but now is the time were they will succeed i understand.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 23:22:26


Eklipse
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Under Spain they have access to EU deals and global trade.

That will change if secession happens.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 23:30:28


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yes your right, who would want to trade with the most industrialised part of spain also everyone knows that if your are below 10 million people, you can't be a member of the eu or trade in general

Edited 10/6/2017 23:32:05
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 23:32:51


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you're*
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 23:46:23


Eklipse
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The EU isn't going to recognize Catalonia for fear of angering Spain. In addition, they'd risk emboldening separatists in other EU nations. It doesn't matter how industrialized they are, global economy is a team game and by illegally breaking away Catalonia would be off the team.

Spain's non European allies would also refuse to recognize in all likelihood.

Catalonia will still be able to trade in some degree I'm sure. But they'll have to deal with tarrifs and regulations that they didn't have to as part of Spain.

Also, IIRC, can't any EU member veto a new entry?

Edited 10/6/2017 23:47:12
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 23:47:15


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MUH SHEKELS
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 23:50:04


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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You all think think the insane dumfucks will make everyone suffer. Let us just hope it gets solved acceptable (aka more autonomy but no independence).
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/6/2017 23:55:08


Eklipse
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I'm not saying the Spanish government is right.

Merely pointing out why Catalan independence is likely to be a huge mistake.
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/23/2017 11:05:51


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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You're going to ignore the outcome of the vote anyway, why go full ussr on the citizens?
Spanish Cops Are Brutalizing Citizens For Voting: 10/24/2017 00:28:14


Wulfhere
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Because Spain like all EU countries is controlled by corrupt demogogues with their corporate sponsors telling them to do this and that with no organic input from anyone.

Though I have to hand it to Macron; that man is articulate and knows much more about the Western tradition than one would expect of an EU politician. I think Macron is a crypto traditionalist. He knows about Hegel and has almost certainly read Spengler.
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