The short version of the story: Spanish national police kick and drag people by the hair, who wished to vote in a non-binding referendum on independence for Catalan.

Commentary is given on the relation between Catalan and the other regions of Spain, and the national government.

The video is by Jimmy Dore who is a leftist political commentator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=DfwzUpR1Bqo

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I remember Sargon making fun of Jimmy Dore

*leftist

Police just did there job in holding law and order.

Which in this case was the morally wrong thing. Shame. Also it was stupid, having the opposite effect their supirors wanted. Double sad.

Catalonia was violating Spanish law, but the central government overreacted to the extreme.

Lots of bad moves on both sides.

Ditto.

The best move would have been allowing the referendum but refusing to recognize it's legitimacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APsHNIrS7-s

yeah, throwing around and beating up people was certainly the right thing to do!

just let them be free if they want to be free

it's not that difficult

I bet that Spain will win. From Google Translate of Spanish newspapers it seems that Spain is pushing businesses to leave Catalonia. This is just the first step.

Not all Catalans hate Spain or want to leave it.

but now they will

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politics are not fought with the military, if they deploy the army then at some time(not now) they will lose

yes look at all of the european colonies and the soviet union and and and.....

ooh a city yes yes yes. then your right ofc a single example then ofc your right

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By being sufficiently harsh you mean more than this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

if you really think the Spanish government would go further than this then you're delusional

i dont really know, do you mean a genocide? because that is the only thing that is harsher then what i mentioned

come on ox, thats nothing

also... Srebenica is in Bosnia & Herzegovina, jus' sayin'.

If you exterminate every single person of ethnicity A then the A identity will be gone. Period.

.If you exterminate every single person of ethnicity A then the A identity will be gone. Period.

sure they could kill all 9 million catalans

you've absolutely failed to prove why repression works. On the one hand, there's the evidence of the Soviet Union falling, as well as Western Imperialism. Your argument is "there's this one town in this one country that's not exactly Serbia, but it's in the part of another country that's sympathetic to Serbia and the town has a lot of Serbs in it, but not quite the majority".

which side holds more weight?

Brutal force is not necessary. Strangling their economy and isolating them politically will break independence movements all the same.