Some people go down the wrong road with atheism. They think their cause is righteous and correct unmistakably. The reality is that like any ideology there's simply people who disagree for their own reasons. They may not seem logical, but logic is a system developed by man, and is imperfect by such nature. I will admit I'm Christian, so i have my biases, but it is annoying to see dogma thrown from atheism when it's just replicating what many zealots have done for years : impose their beliefs on others in our free world. One might counter with laws, but we agree to those laws, they're an agreed upon belief of how our world should run.

Whether you believe in a diety or not, it shouldn't affect relationships, your social life unless you allow it to. It's a personal belief with only some debateable aspects.

It may seem illogical to believe in a god to some, but it's more than salvation to many, more than an afterlife. It's about understanding your place. It's not about being told this is what you're here, to me it has always been like a partner or guide, following along with me, being there, ever present and understanding. All this can come off as irrational, and that is fine. It's how you are as a thinking human being. Very little can change base thought processes. Argument and debate were not designed to make people agree, they were made to let other people know their stature in a dispute, to clear the air in a civil manner, but not to settle the issue.

The "correct" atheist knows he has his pot of clay to shape, just as the Muslim man. They have their lifestyles, their families, but they are very similar in their chemistry and inner workings. He knows that religion is not what defines a person, it's a part of them not their whole. He knows there are those of his own, other atheists that would only seek to bring about discord, and that he must set the example. Just as the proper religious fellow knows that his lot have their own pushy manners.

You don't have to shun other beliefs, but it is wise to take your own thoughts above others, they are only the most applicable to yourself, why belittle them? You don't have to conform, but you mustn't cause rebellion.

Like the teaching of Buddha, you must find the middle path, of self respect and respect for others.

Before you call yourself a Christan keep in mind you can't believe in Darwinian evolution.

Or that the earth is round.

^No actually nobody intelligent believes that. Study more before you sink deeper into stupidity. Love you're world nations map BTW.

^No actually nobody intelligent believes that. Study more before you sink deeper into stupidity. Love you're world nations map BTW.

*Tells me to study more*

*Can't tell difference between "Your" and "You're"*

"nobody intelligent believes that the earth is round"

wait, what?

Sure, it may not be a perfect circle, but it is round

Before you call yourself a Christan keep in mind you can't believe in Darwinian evolution.

Ouch. Someone is defensive

The problem with being a minority is that you are alone against so many people you have to beat one by one.

The existence of god cannot be proven or disproven. In my view if a being such as "god" really existed it wouldn't fall under the definition of a benevolent creator deity as it is portrayed through most forms of human religion. Rather it would be some form of force holding the universe together, being impartial to any defintion of evil and good. Per that definition prayer to any deity whatsoever would be exercise in futility and the only way to truly know god would be through observation of the phenomena it created. If science should indeed prove that there is some kind of force holding the universe together and being responsible for its creation than that force could indeed be considered god.

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Before you call yourself a Christan keep in mind you can't believe in Darwinian evolution.

why not?

I think it is important not to attack people for their religion as long as it is not dangerous or extremely foolish. Talking about religion is kind of hard since everyone tries to make their religion seem like something it isn't. Islam is violent, 7 days is not used as a metaphor, and accepting all religions is idiotic.

^^Because the Bible is literal and that would mean sin came before Adam and Eve ate the fruit.

Because the Bible is literal

who says?

7 days is not used as a metaphor

and let me guess, the Earth is 5000 years old? I pity you.

^Why would God write a book with confusing riddles that we have to figure out by comparing them to what life is like now.Just because you were taught in school to believe something doesn't mean you have to.

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Why would God write a book with confusing riddles that we have to figure out by comparing them to what life is like now

Uuum, because he didn't write it? I don't care what you say, I have faith in my statement! Don't challenge it!!!11!

Just because you were taught in school to believe something doesn't mean you have to

Just because you were taught by your parents/local priest to believe something doesn't mean you have to

Atheism is rationalism and relies upon just as many assumptions as other religions. The scientific explanation of phenomenon is objective to some extent (gases expand when heated, gravity is a thing, mommy's tummy and daddy's cummy makes a babby, etc.) However, when science denies that culture has any transcendent properties and denies the metaphysical, and what's worse: when science reduces men to cogs in the machine and replaces culture with material, it abandons its (acceptable) utility in solving basic problems and takes on a corrupting effect.

Guess what guys something totally unexpected happened! This debate is a tie so far.

^^Apollong3 if You believe God didn't write it then you are not a Christan and should not be answering for Christans who believe in Darwinian evolution.

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Jesus loves you all :D

@Emperor Justinian

I was not answering in behalf of any christians, lol


@Kastle Bravo

Indeed, deep down, scientific knowledge relies on faith, like religion. Anyone can believe any way or the other and no one can tell them they are objectively wrong.

when science denies that culture has any transcendent properties and denies the metaphysical, and what's worse: when science reduces men to cogs in the machine and replaces culture with material

Not all people who don't believe in any god veiw the world in this way.I may not believe in any god. That doesn't mean I believe every cognitive function can be perfectly attributed to functions in my brain. It doesn't mean I'm a determinist.

In fact, when I'm faced with determinism or physicalism, something inside me rejects the notion that I'm a machine. I fear the possibility of everything being a series of actions and reactions; I fear the idea of existence being pointless/purposeless. Such gaps are often filled in by religion, for people want to believe there is order in the world, that there is something beyond death. They want someone to give them a purpose.

And the best thing is: No one can prove the world is chaotic. No one can prove death is the end. No one can prove existence is pointless.

I am fascinated by physics and finding out how the world works. I want to study it and understand it. That does not mean I reject art, literature or philosophy. For I am not a positivist, and I do not hold scientific knowledge as the absolute and only true knowledge.

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