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Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 16:54:35


ps 
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And on the 256th month of WarLight creation, the Fizzer god created CLOT system and the crowd gasped in amazement. Many CLOTs slowly came to be and slowly came to pass. Then suddenly the Deadman decided to create the so aptly and cleverly named Multi Day Ladder.

And all the elistist of the warlight realm rejoiced and made merry for mod could now play up to 10 games at a time in different strategic templates and Timinator could stall like only alhazi taught him too.

For so many years the legends of warlight such as Gui, Frankslimste, Motocross, Szeweningen and Gnuffles have asked for such a ladder, and finally, thanks to the Deadman it came upon us during the age of the Masters!

http://md-ladder.cloudapp.net/

You might ask yourself: "am i not worthy of joining such a ladder?" and "will i not be pwned by Dunga's kid?" and you could very well be right, for the templates are many and strategically play you must, with great care and attention, or the Masters will make burger out of you.

But what if you stopped being a pussy and just joined for a couple months? The more middle level players there are, the wider the competitive tiers will become and everyone will have challenging games on their own level, and make merry.

And you might ask yourself: "how can i know more about this ladder then?"

Well, thank you for that question, and i'm so glad you asked because just as it happens we have just recently recorded a video explaining all about it and you can watch it right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EAWWs78sYI

Master of the Dead and Muli are hard at work improving the best (and only CLOT) running Multi Day Ladder CLOT in existance.



Edited 4/13/2017 17:43:00
Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 17:10:06


Jefferspin 
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AMEN!!!
Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 17:13:14


Sephiroth
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Cool stuff, too bad it's 2k17 and wl is not hip anymore
Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 17:17:51


Beren Erchamion 
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Hallelujah! Praise Jesus!
Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 17:42:40


l4v.r0v 
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Not to take your shitposting too seriously, but I don't think shitposting inside memes is gonna attract players outside the elite strat community. If you really wanna reach out and expand the playerbase on MDL, you gotta speak in the language and tap into the channels of people outside the little community where it's caught on.

But seriously though, how do you resist a ladder with a UI that solid? It's practically got at least feature parity with the standard ladder UI. Not the most impressive use of Bootstrap, and for some reason it doesn't have a favicon >_> but holy shit that interface puts the standard CLOT interface to shame.
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Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 22:23:41


l4v.r0v 
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Not sure why you read hostility into that; I'm not working on any competitor projects to MDL* and I'm equally impressed by the MDL and interested in making sure it stays alive given that it's significantly better than any other ladder this site has had. In any case, apology on my end if I did come across as hostile or anything other than constructive. The praise of the MDL UI was genuine; the UI that comes packaged with the CLOT framework is honestly crap, but the one MotD has set up is pretty neat, easy to navigate, and has just about everything you'll find on the Warlight 1v1 ladder page; I always thought that UI/UX would be the crucial barrier to making a successful CLOT, but the MDL is, well, impressive on that front.

Just saying that, ime, if you want to attract not-that-good players onto MDL (since it seems like MDL certainly doesn't struggle with attracting good players but apparently needs to balance out its skill level representation), attracting 'mid-skill' players into community events is a different (and often weird) task compared to attracting the normal strat community. To attract good players to a ladder or tournament, you just need a good ladder or just something that's worth their time. To attract most of the rest, you're kind of forced to figure out which channels they use (some of them are tied to clans, some are tied to off-site communities, etc.) and I don't know if this thread would be particularly effective at that. Only time will tell, I guess.

I can't offer you any sure-fire methods to attract mid-skill players, was just telling you this instead of responding with awe at the dankpost and just laughing at the joke b/c even though this thread is obviously just a straight-up joke:

a) You're clearly invested on some level in keeping MDL alive and getting more people on it, especially people who are probably going to get rekt by Dunga's kid.

b) My rating on MDL won't be as shit if you succeed, so it's in my interest to tell you whatever it is I know so that MDL looks more like the playerbase as a whole and my rating doesn't drop below 1500 so fast

Sorry for ruining the post, I guess.

* I'm working on that thing linked on my profile page, but: a) that's still in development and without any promised release date; b) I did not put anyone up to the task of advertising it and am not particularly happy about comments on other threads that mention it; and c) when it will get released, it will not support any built-in UI so I don't see any leagues built using that framework competing with MDL unless MDL itself decides to switch over. Genuinely not interested in destroying a well-run and fun ladder that's already reached maturity and stability. Right now, the only expected application of my project is Hydra's internal league.

Edited 4/13/2017 22:32:25
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Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 22:34:06


l4v.r0v 
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^_^ Guess I shouldn't have gotten involved. Was just trying to figure out in a roundabout way whether I should invest some time into getting more mid-level players onto MDL, but looks like old grudges and misgivings are gonna get in the way.

Best of luck, though.

Edited 4/13/2017 22:35:30
Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 22:54:48


Dogberry
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knyte, you make some excellent points that are completely relevant and 100% accurate, but you have no idea how to actually present them in a manner that does not piss everyone off who needs to hear it.
Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 22:56:24


l4v.r0v 
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If the presentation's decent enough that you're able to recognize the points and agree with them and you still decide to respond by getting all aggressive and personal (or meta by calling out the presentation), that's on you, pal.

I get that my reputation is crap with y'all, though, so no need to derail this thread any further lest it keep ps's video from hitting 100 views. Move to PM's if you want to continue whatever this discussion is; I'd still be interested/willing to help out with recruiting mid-tier strat players from clans that aren't at the top of any ladder, but it's your call.

Edited 4/13/2017 23:00:18
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Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 23:02:44


l4v.r0v 
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Okay PM me and let me know how to turn off these magic powers that make me responsible for other people's emotions.

EDIT: I'd PM you but I'm on your blacklist. Will not respond any further on this thread b/c I'd rather not derail it.

Edited 4/13/2017 23:08:39
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Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 23:18:26


Jefferspin 
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AMEN!!!
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Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 23:40:47


l4v.r0v 
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Dude you're a grown-ass man living on your own and raising a rabbit; you're supposed to have at least a modicum of maturity.

Are you really going to stoop to that level of hostility because someone you don't like tried to help you out?

If you want to get players with limited skill to join your ladder, your best bet is to PM people who've already got connections- people like clan leaders or players who often create games/tournaments or are just the hub of communication for some subcommunity (e.g., language groups). It's easier to get people to join in batches than it is to get them to join one-by-one. Try starting out reaching out to the big active community-leader type players in mid-tier strat clans; not necessarily the leaders but whoever's active and communicative within that clan, someone that people generally listen to. You could also join their networks/Discord servers/Skype channels yourself but typically they just tune out outsiders until you build up some rapport; for at least the types of strat clans where some people still play diplo often, there's just a few people who everyone pays attention to and everyone else gets tuned out 90-95% of the time. You also have a better audience with the average mid-tier strat player in the middle of a game (even on a 1v1 auto, but ime tournament/1v1 ladder games are the best contexts) than you have elsewhere.

Good luck.

Edited 4/13/2017 23:45:09
Convert yourself!: 4/13/2017 23:46:50


Lordi
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A catfight between two of the most stuck-up donnas of Warlight? Please continue, this is great fun! Right now I'm on team ps because he at least created something useful for the community - not only hot air.
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