My opinions are based on how good those players were in the years 2011-2013 for some context and I am in no way saying i'm right! I'm very much probably wrong, outside of Heyheuhei whom I think is the best player of all time.

I rate HHH highly, but if making a top 5 list I'd probably pick something like Gui, Szeweningen, Myhandisonfire, Dead Piggy, and Latnox perhaps. There's many people one could substitute in or out of such a list with it remaining fairly sensible though.

1: Paugers
2: Paugers
3: Paugers
4: Paugers
5: Paugers

HHH and Teddy I agree.

Blue Precision and Duke I`ve never had the honour to play or see playing as far as I remember.

TheImpaller was one of the strongest players when she was actively playing. I believe she came back later and didn`t perform too well. I think she is a very strong player, but how strong exactly I don`t know. Maybe if she came back and played long enough to shake of the rust we can see, but right now I wouldn`t put her on the list.

1. ChrisCMU
2. ChrisCMU
3. ChrisCMU
4. ChrisCMU
5. ChrisCMU

Edited 10/16/2016 01:28:04

Whats with the fascination of the 'old guard fascination'? Its not just WL... look at sports like soccer... everyone saying maradona or cantona is better than Messi and Ronaldo... no they're not.

I mean... look at Blue Precision's profile... (I don't even know who he is)

1 v 1 ladder: Not Ranked with a rating of 0. Best rating ever: 2023, best rank ever: 2nd
2 v 2 ladder with Eitz: Not Ranked with a rating of 0. Best rating ever: 1969, best rank ever: 1st
Seasonal ladder season I: Ranked 16th with a rating of 2391.
Seasonal ladder season II: Ranked 95th with a rating of 2037.
Seasonal ladder season VI: Ranked 63rd with a rating of 2294.
Seasonal ladder season VII: Ranked 10th with a rating of 2755.
Seasonal ladder season VIII: Ranked 64th with a rating of 2301.

And you're telling me he is better than players like Buns or disaster?

Stop this 'old guard' worship... its a deadhorse... let the legend die....

Edited 10/16/2016 01:35:51

Eh, I'd personally say I am as good or better than 3 of those 5 (ie. not Teddy or HHH, I feel they are better than me, the other 3 I'd expect to beat over 50% of the time). They're all good, just not really anything near top 5 other than Heyheuhei IMO. I'd consider myself maybe a top 100 player, if that, so 3 of them being worse than me really speaks as to how far they are from being top 5.

Nauz, you can stop it now.

Lol, Daryl wasn't even serious with his post yet everyone jumps at him. I mean he just listed some names that were top around 2011 because that's what he remembers and propably wasn't even active since then. He never said those are "better than Buns or MoD".

No but now I'm butthurt and I must rant about it like everyone else.

In terms of skill I would definitily say white death since he virtually is invincible. In terms of effect on the game i would either say fizzer or Incaman (the guy who made RoR and crusades map).

Agreed 100% on the "old guard".

Take 10 random games from those top players in 2011 and 10 random games from top players 2016.

Level of skill improves.

Sometimes top players keep up with the times, sometimes they don't, sometimes they retire and sometimes they are gui.

Top 20 all time players (not best players):

1- GodKungRoaringCow
2- Xapy
3- Semicedevine
4- Darklordio
5- Belgian Gentleman
6- Fizzer
7- Chris
8- Onoma94
9- Cata Cauda
10- Mighty Koala
11- Death
12- OxTheAutist
13- Fleecemaster
14- Zephyrum
15- Sleepybear
16- The Conservative
17- knyte
18- Realmcheatham
19- Tbest
20- Luna (TJC)

Edited 10/17/2016 20:21:38

these guys:
https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=611489923
https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6514192377
https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4736323931
https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3544470224
https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2644470085

I'm more impressed with their avatars than their stats. How long have you been waiting for an opportunity to make a post like this?

Top 5 under what criteria? 1vs1,2vs2,ffa, big team games, uneven teams, ladder wins, ranking points, luck percentage, different maps , changed bonus value? what exactly? How do we calculate this, on centimeters, watt, Celsius, kilograms?

Those kind of questions have no basis

I think he's asking for the top 5 overall