11 rules we have to prepared, 11 rules you have to follow. 10 rules are stated in our ruleset, those 10 rules you have to follow (https://www.warlight.net/Forum/141458-clan-league-8-preparation-thread). Another rule we have declared, an eleventh rule you have to follow. Don't search for the 11 rule, but certainly do follow. The 11th rule is not unveiled yet, we just pull something random out of our ass, if a team we don't want to win ends up winning. Oh, and if the 11th rule contradicts one of the other rules, then what comes later overrides what comes first. Suck it loosers!

1) Alts - A player may only operate 1 account in a given clan league (regardless of division, and must declare their main if using an alt.

seems to be pretty straightforward to me, don't understand why it creates such a problem though.

rule 3 (max amount of tournaments emu can be in), 4 (what can be considered as a player slot (every 3v3 team has 3 slots, emu can be in max 3 slots)) & 6 (if ltemperor is retired it could be a legitimate reason, but I don't think he is?) can also apply to some extend but as emu is in only 1 tournament don't seem to be relevant here

Edited 7/23/2016 17:15:00

@Semicedevine

Rule 6 can not only can be interpreted to mean that Emu has done nothing wrong but that you are also making yourself and the forum look like shit over nothing. I have no intention of debating this matter with you further because facts don't appear to be your strong suit.

Rule 6 is very clear. https://www.warlight.net/Forum/141458-clan-league-8-preparation-thread. Please read it before restarting drama that has been dead for two days.

Edited 7/23/2016 18:36:03

Kira your clan is the very example of bureaucracy. So no, i will trash your clan when and if i ever feel up to it because there is no need for convoluted government structures in a flash game.

Hey Rogue, come relax. I find Semicedivine quite funny, not as funny as the IM guy but still funny. I'm pretty sure he is just having his fun here. If I wouldn't have to represent our clan (as one of our 5 admins) I would also hop in and get as much laughter as possible out of this thread. I'm pretty sure that Semicedivine knows quite well where knyte's hypocrisy is. I mean come on, the Lost Wolves, have maxed out Semicedevine in the "clan league" who takes pride in his reputation as "the destroyer of clans".

Anyhow, Norman out here, I promised you guys to act more responsible in the future. Everyone who had a good laugh looking at the bigotts posting in this thread, please feel free to apply to our clan. That's what we stand for: Excellent play, great gaming attitude, fair play and having a good laugh with some occasional trolling. Since currently not all our members are laughing at this thread I'd like to ask our hot heated members (including myself) to not reply here any longer.

Edited 7/23/2016 19:49:52

Kroete, as Aristotle put it "ignorantia iuris nocet". Also even if the accused did not know the rule they had broken, Ignorantia juris non excusat. Now I am not saying the accused broke any rule, but defending someone by saying "no one could verify there was a rule broken that has been known to the accused beforehand' only allows people to break the rules and claim ignorance which is purely unacceptable whether it is true or not.

This depends on if the rule is stated in an understandable manner and in a place were everyone has access to.
If the jurisdiction fails to communicate a set of rules, it can not expect anyone to comply.
If the accused person is too lazy to read or too thick to understand a(n otherwise understandable) rule, Aristotle comes into the play.

In my opinion, the clan league rules are not clear enough on this topic. It is obviously very hard to think of all possibilities beforehand, so this drama here should lead to a clarification in the rules (and yes, this practically means the rules will get longer and longer from clan league to clan league).
In the end, it will be up to the clan league manageres to decide if it should have been clear enough that account sitting is forbidden for clan league games or not anyway. But the rules as they are now leave room for interpretation, so they should be changed to clarify things.

I THINK WE SHOULD ALL DECLARE WAR ON THEM! but i think also we should exclude M'Hunters from community events

I think that certain things need to change about this community, about Clan League, and about how clans operate (that's been a transparently-held view of mine for a long, long time).

Those intentions are good and you're in your right to state your view of the problems that concern all the community. However it doesn't justify the way you present us MHunters, is offensive at least for me.

The title itself incites drama, your accusations are generalizing the clan when you should've pointed the particular members and the particular issues and suggesting reasonable solutions, opening the dialog to both parties, not exhorting the community to exclude us from the begining.

That's why I still doubt your motives and the reason I made an unnecesary comment. I'm sorry for that.

Having said that, I agree with Kroete that the main question now is about the rules of the clan league if this thread serves for something it must be the clarification of CL rules.

Edited 7/24/2016 05:15:29

Agreed. While I think the other issues should remain part of the conversation, http://bit.ly/mh-cheating is the most important thing right now- not just for clarification, but for enforcement.

Edited 7/24/2016 06:20:27

bump

It's like state-sponsored doping all over again.

One member of Clan League management is out this weekend (and some of the others are probably busy with real life and hopefully doing something fun too), so don't expect anything over the weekend.

I think the http://bit.ly/mh-cheating situation is serious, but nowhere near as egregious as Vitaly Mutko. There's probably a lot going on right now behind curtains that the community at large won't ever know about, so there's no need to worry about systematic issues taking over CL- at least until CL management makes its decision.

Edited 7/24/2016 11:14:21

It's like state-sponsored doping all over again.

Can you stop with this nonsense? We've already stated we are looking into it. I don't know if you are doing this on purpose, or cannot understand what we're trying to convey.

Whatever measures are taken based on this issue can be applied at any date during CL8. Now, we would appreciate it, if you just let us do what we have to.

Official ruling: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/169294-clan-league-group-c-mhunters-gl-team-ruling

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Edited 7/26/2016 01:56:12

Quick and dirty reference for how things would've looked if points had been deducted for games affected by what the CL panel and M'Hunters now both acknowledge was cheating:



Edited 7/26/2016 02:12:42