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Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/17/2016 22:50:45


Belgian Gentleman
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Trump supporters in troll disguise are pretty much anywhere on the internet. Same for anarchists. You better be more original
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/17/2016 23:01:08


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^ Incoherent statement.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/17/2016 23:05:46


Жұқтыру
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Authoritarianism is just as bad as anarchism.


I'd rather live in Iran or Arabia than in somewhere alike but with no watch.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/17/2016 23:06:23


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I'm being roasted so hard!
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/17/2016 23:35:57


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I'd rather live in Iran or Arabia than in somewhere alike but with no watch.

I guess this might just be a difference in worldview, but a Islamic area with anarchism doesn't sound that bad. If they force you into sharia, they're acting as the state and it's basically like Saudi Arabia (and it just devolves into statehood) just a bit weaker, and if they don't, they're not negatively impacting you.

Edited 7/17/2016 23:40:02
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 01:24:32


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oh boy this is too hilarious. I only want to comment this troll thread very briefly:

Police throughout Germany


actually 60 raids, which is less than 1 ppm. *throughout germany* sounds very exaggerated..

target folk for thoughtcrime on Facebook,


wtf do you mean with thoughtcrime? Those raids were about rabble-rousing and the use of
unconstitutional signs. yes the use of NS-signs is forbidden in germany for good reasons, no matter where.

and arrest many.


which actually means arrested none. pls read the **news** more carefully! =D

Bild reported [..]


your article quoted BILD news, a german rag, most famous for nude pics. They are always on the spot, when a brothel is raided, some managers invite hookers on a business party or politicians relax during there sex-holidays.

well done Smedley! =D
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 01:48:04


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actually 60 raids, which is less than 1 ppm. *throughout germany* sounds very exaggerated..

More than twenty five police departments, from Berlin to Kempten. That's not exaggerated.

wtf do you mean with thoughtcrime? Those raids were about rabble-rousing and the use of
unconstitutional signs. yes the use of NS-signs is forbidden in germany for good reasons, no matter where.


Rabble rousing, by posting comments online? And if the Police of Vice and Virtue arrest someone for a picture of Muhammed, it might be legal, but it's still immoral.

wtf do you mean with thoughtcrime? Those raids were about rabble-rousing and the use of
unconstitutional signs. yes the use of NS-signs is forbidden in germany for good reasons, no matter where.


And no, it's not a good thing that Germany has banned nazi symbolism. It's anti-free speech first off (but you "Anarcho" Communist antifa type fuckwits who wouldn't statelessness if it hit you like a brick to the face don't care about that), secondly, all you do is give credit to those ideas if you can't beat them in debate, and third, I don't think that if a German sees a nazi symbol he's going to goose step down the street while shouting Strasbourg to Konigsberg.

which actually means arrested none. pls read the **news** more carefully! =D

Even if none were kidnapped (I highly doubt no one has been kidnapped for thoughtcrime) that's still breaking and entering, and theft. Congratulations, your police are a notch better than the Stasi or SS they're emulating.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 01:53:00


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And no, before you say that Nazis shouldn't have freedom of speech, that's quite possibly the worst precedence you can set.

If you can beat someone for saying something so you can further your ideology, that just means that you can do anything and justify it with that. That's how we get shit like the Iraq War, where a government decides it's ideology is better, so it kills hundreds of millions to implant it in another country.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 03:04:49


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+1 MGSB

It always amazes me how European countries can brag about having enlightened social policies yet they heavily abuse their citizens' right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression. To restrict the way people are allowed to think and believe based on such subjective categories as "hateful" or "offensive" is horribly misguided at best and horribly tyrannical at worst.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 06:43:28


Жұқтыру
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I guess this might just be a difference in worldview, but a Islamic area with anarchism doesn't sound that bad. If they force you into sharia, they're acting as the state


That's the main problem of unleadership: some kind of "state" will come back, with worse intents.

It always amazes me how European countries can brag about having enlightened social policies yet they heavily abuse their citizens' right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression.


I don't disagree, but clinks to me like someone is butthurt haha.

Belarus enlightened despotism (whatever that means) 2016.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 13:03:50


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That's the main problem of unleadership: some kind of "state" will come back, with worse intents.

It's mostly when the unruled area is either, A: Taken over by outside rule or B: The population's culture and customs allow for it to be taken over. I don't think it could work now in most places because of the second, and the places it could work are moderate and accepting of things (could work in Iceland, Sweden, etc F.E.). I like Tolstoi's idea of a moral revolution for this, though obviously not one involving getting rid of private property and all that. One of the best things to happen for this though, would be a reform movement in Islam or the Saudi's getting crippled economically so they can't keep spreading it. Things like that, getting rid of extremist beliefs or weakening them greatly, would go wonders in that direction.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 15:23:27


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More like the Christian secular reformation, not the Wahabbism. And Europe had tens of millions of deaths from inter-Christian violence, let's not keep that trend going in the Middle East.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 16:58:36


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So is dropping gays off buildings the right thing to do?
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 17:22:30


Belgian Gentleman
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I guess you want to see people being triggered and then play victim card
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 17:28:33


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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This might be one of the only times i agree with MGSB.

+1 MGSB, well done.

EDIT: Anon stop, please stop.

Edited 7/18/2016 17:28:53
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 17:33:18


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oh boy this is too hilarious. I only want to comment this troll thread very briefly:
Police throughout Germany
actually 60 raids, which is less than 1 ppm. *throughout germany* sounds very exaggerated..
target folk for thoughtcrime on Facebook,
wtf do you mean with thoughtcrime? Those raids were about rabble-rousing and the use of
unconstitutional signs. yes the use of NS-signs is forbidden in germany for good reasons, no matter where.
and arrest many.
which actually means arrested none. pls read the **news** more carefully! =D
Bild reported [..]
your article quoted BILD news, a german rag, most famous for nude pics. They are always on the spot, when a brothel is raided, some managers invite hookers on a business party or politicians relax during there sex-holidays.
well done Smedley! =D

+1 for non shitpost.

It always amazes me how European countries can brag about having enlightened social policies yet they heavily abuse their citizens' right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression. To restrict the way people are allowed to think and believe based on such subjective categories as "hateful" or "offensive" is horribly misguided at best and horribly tyrannical at worst.

gr8 b8 m9. 9/11 - IGN
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 17:34:37


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Hatespeech has been expanded (as arbitrary laws often are) to cover all political dissent.

The unregulated flow of "refugees" (most of them from North Africa and not even fleeing ISIS) or more accurately economic migrants, brings crime and mistrust. Worse, these people are a protected class. They won't be prosecuted for their crimes because Germany is afraid of sending a political message. The German police would rather arrest Germans for "hatespeech" than Muslim rapists.

We will see a rise of far right-wing street gangs and mafias, and justly so. If the police can't protect the people, hell, if the police arrest their own people for standing up to a foreign threat, some other institution of law has to take control. The German government's idiocy has forced people to become right-wing. The police will prioritize dismantling these "hategroups" over actual threats like Islamic terrorism. And Muslims of course will continue to gain influence and force Germans to assimilate to their ideology. We will likely see a three way war.
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 17:51:46


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We will see a rise of far right-wing street gangs and mafias, and justly so. If the police can't protect the people, hell, if the police arrest their own people for standing up to a foreign threat, some other institution of law has to take control. The German government's idiocy has forced people to become right-wing. The police will prioritize dismantling these "hategroups" over actual threats like Islamic terrorism. And Muslims of course will continue to gain influence and force Germans to assimilate to their ideology. We will likely see a three way war.


+1
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 18:00:34


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This thread is near cancer, although i admit that authoritarianism is too goddamn high here. ;P
Authoritarianism in Germany: 7/18/2016 20:34:56


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Shawty´s like a melody in my head
That I can´t keep out
Got me singin´like
Na na na na everyday
It´s like my iPod stuck on replay, replay-ay-ay-ay
It´s like my iPod stuck on replay, replay-ay-ay-ay
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