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Checking your privilige: 6/26/2016 11:52:56


Ox
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;_; look at all these posh twats who're all affluent. make me feel like a chav >_>
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spacefrogs
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yea sure Israel is geographically part of the middle east but we are completely different from our neighbors,we are democracy,we have western values,and we are way more similar to europe or the USA than Egypt or Jordan
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Leif Eriksson
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Ox, I feel you fam.
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But Cyprus is European.
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Жұқтыру
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I dont consider Israel as a part of the middle east


Even if it wasn't, it'd still be closest to the Middle East. And the Middle East is a geographic concept. Israel can not into EU, sorry.

Cyprus is European.


That's debatable.
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If we look at HDI, religion and culture I would consider Israel not as part of the Middle-East.
Geographically yes, but in terms of culture and life standards definetely not.

Cyprus is European.


That's debatable.

Cyprus is partly Greek, so its Europe.
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Жұқтыру
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If we look at HDI, religion and culture I would consider Israel not as part of the Middle-East.


Even then, it definitely is. It's Semitic, so closer to Arabic culture than Iran. It's an Abrahamic faith, it's country doesn't unyoke faith and government well at all, and it's also crap to live in (also the living standards change greatly in the Middle East - you have countries like Syria and Yemen, but also Qatar and Bahrain.).

Cyprus is partly Greek, so its Europe.


Not everyone will say this, it all hangs on who you ask.

Edited 6/26/2016 21:09:23
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spacefrogs
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Israel is not a bad place to live in,in fact,its pretty great here
Checking your privilige: 6/26/2016 23:12:18


Huitzilopochtli 
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-20
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Huitzilopochtli 
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WL opreses mee, i deeman a sayf spac !!
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Huitzilopochtli 
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^don ferget aboot da uglee option 2 m8

Edited 6/27/2016 00:37:18
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Israel is part of the middle east, given it's history as being solidly within the region (It's only been a few decades since the area has been majority jewish, it used to be mostly muslim). It's sort of like Turkey in that way. Turkey is considered as part of the middle east since even though there's a pretty solid case for them being considered european, They've just had too much history as a middle eastern nation with the practical annihilation of christian heritage in the country.

Even then, it definitely is. It's Semitic, so closer to Arabic culture than Iran. It's an Abrahamic faith, it's country doesn't unyoke faith and government well at all, and it's also crap to live in (also the living standards change greatly in the Middle East - you have countries like Syria and Yemen, but also Qatar and Bahrain.).


From what I can tell (I've never been to Israel, but I'm a pretty big israel fan) it's sort of like the situation in the US. Yes they are technically secular and have separation of church and state, but it's a little bit of an awkward separation given that basically everybody shares the same faith.

Not everyone will say this, it all hangs on who you ask.


It's pretty much a simple fact, Greeks make up a significant majority in Cyprus (60%), and this isn't even mentioning the fact that Cyprus is actually part of the European Union, a pretty clear argument for it being part of "Europe".
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Жұқтыру
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they are technically secular and have separation of church and state


No, they're not secular; or at least, America's not comparable. They give citizenship to any Jew, there are a hold bunch of faith exceptions for Jews (for example, women are not needed to join the draft if they cite Judaism - but no such thing for men), and there's loads of other laws. Israel was built as a Jewish stronghold; America was built on a few bases of freedom from Britain, including faithful.

It's pretty much a simple fact


No, it's not, it really hangs on who you ask. I think it's part of both the Middle East and Europe, and really, the continental borders are a bit vaguely meant, especially for islands.

http://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/3204/is-cyprus-in-europe;
https://www.quora.com/How-come-Cyprus-an-island-in-Asia-joined-the-EU-when-only-the-countries-which-have-a-border-in-Europe-can-join-the-European-Union

Also, citing that it's in the EU means 0. Even Turkey is trying to get into the EU.

Edited 6/27/2016 03:28:06
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Gojirra
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+155

Edited 6/27/2016 05:14:22
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francisco0002
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approx. 135.
not sure which countries of europe would be considered "shit" (>implying any part of europe is shit)
Checking your privilige: 6/27/2016 08:44:56


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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East and Balkans
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Ranek
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what is this bullshit? since when is a intersex, gay, transgender, black, muslim guy from the middle east, who is deaf, blind, retarded and homeless as well as short in size, but super attractive a -2565?
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+180

Weird though. I identify as a Mongolian. They never have it, we're definitely the most surpressed minority.
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Жұқтыру
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not sure which countries of europe would be considered "shit" (>implying any part of europe is shit)


Yeah, not really any third-world countries in Europe.
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ayy lmao
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*crickets*
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