You are entitled to your own opinion Karl, but I disagree.

I say a political movement with a complacent, passive supporter base will get literally nowhere. Islam is becoming widely accepted in Europe, even more accepted than traditional right-wing conservatism.

Why? BECAUSE its supporters commit acts of terrorism. Fear is a powerful tool. The ignorant masses will support an ideology based on fear alone, see Shariah Law in European countries.

I mean I disagreed with her policies (kinda sorta, honestly I didn't even know she existed before I heard she got killed), but I don't think she deserved to die. That's really a shame, as koala said.

What else to say... We often talk about Islamism or religious fanaticism in general... See what happens when political extremism/fanaticism takes the lives of innocent ones

This is going too far. This was one death, which doesn't even make the list of deadliest terrorist incidents, which by the way is still very much dominated by Islamic Extremism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks

Case in point: Out of the ten deadliest terror attacks of all time, seven were committed because of islamic extremism, and this is a group that only makes up 20-25% of the world population.

Committing suicide is not Islamic. Suicide is forbidden in Islam. And Islam is not extreme.

Denying that these people are muslims is denying that this extremism has a religious motive, which is simply ridiculous. Of course it has a religious motive, and whether valid or not, the religion they are getting their religious motive from is Islam.

Thus, Islamic Extremism.

@Anonym

"Tristan", you can't shut me down. I don't accept your atheist oppression.

I don't accept your Islamic crap. Stop ramming Islam down our throats and I'll stop telling you to piss off.


@Koala

How can you want the death of an innocent person just because you disagree with what she defended?

Quite easily. Take advocates for the meat and dairy industry. Or the leather and fur industry. I disagree with what they're doing, and I want every single one dead. It's the same as with politicians. If a politician comes up with ideas and policies which I view as despicable, I have every right to want them dead too.

+1 Imperator

I don't accept your Islamic crap. Stop ramming Islam down our throats and I'll stop telling you to piss off.

+1

Take advocates for the meat and dairy industry. Or the leather and fur industry. I disagree with what they're doing, and I want every single one dead.

So you want 9/10ths of the world population to be wiped out because you're a sociopath who puts animals above his own kind? Good to know.

I have no problems with vegetarians and vegans, and actually consider myself an environmentalist. But people like you shine a bad light on all animal rights/environmentalist causes.

Well damn.The UK has crazies, too. a damn shame that someone lost their life for having an opinion. We shouldn't blame the politicians, though.

So you want 9/10ths of the world population to be wiped out because you're a sociopath who puts animals above his own kind? Good to know.

In all honesty, yes.

I love you too <3

So you want 9/10ths of the world population to be wiped out because you're a sociopath who puts animals above his own kind? Good to know.

In all honesty, yes.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is where Leftism officially jumps off the deep end. The Horseshoe theory is right, if you become extreme enough in liberalism you'll start to resemble far-right Nazis in your thinking and methods.

So you want 9/10ths of the world population to be wiped out because you're a sociopath who puts animals above his own kind? Good to know.

Remplace every time you say "animal" with "Jew", then try not to be a nazi.

Seriously, what's better (likably neither, but oh well), 6k million deaths (but human) for one time, or 60k million+ deaths each year?

Seriously, what's better (likably neither, but oh well), 6k million deaths (but human) for one time, or 60k million+ deaths each year?

Don't forget to factor in the humans that Tristan wants dead.

Remplace every time you say "animal" with "Jew", then try not to be a nazi.

False equivelancy and obvious straw-man on top of it. Jews are the same as any other human in terms of intelligence, sentience, ability, etc. Meanwhile there's a definable difference between humans and other species by the same measurements.

I believe in protecting my fellow humans first, if that makes me a Nazi by your twisted definition, that so be it. Hit me with that human supremacist label, because I'll embrace it.

Seriously, what's better (likably neither, but oh well), 6k million deaths (but human) for one time, or 60k million+ deaths each year?

Neither is better, and we should all work to cut down on the number of animal deaths. However, if you think that killing millions of humans in order to achieve that is the way to do it then you are certifiably sociopathic and a danger to society.

@Prussian

>thinks animals are worth more than humans
You're a satanist.

My personal belief system generally fits in with Satanism, (and I mean genuine Satanism, not the stereotypical Devil-worshippers) though for all intents and purposes I'm an atheist.

@Eklipse

Neither is better, and we should all work to cut down on the number of animal deaths. However, if you think that killing millions of humans in order to achieve that is the way to do it then you are certifiably sociopathic and a danger to society.

Stopping the consumption and wearing of animals is the obvious way to cut down on animal deaths.

Personally, I wouldn't step outside and start randomly killing humans just because I believe that most of them deserve death. I generally don't voice my opinions but they were asked for. ;)

I wasn't born this high on the food chain to not eat meat. But the unnecessary wearing of fur and hunting for sport is truly wasteful.

Remplace every time you say "animal" with "Jew", then try not to be a nazi.

This only works if you consider animals to be equal to humans, which they obviously aren't. And even if you do consider animals equals with humans, there are still several disanalogies to be offered here.

Humans killing animals are rarely done simply to rid the world of these inferior animals. Rather quite the contrary, they are done for one of three reasons:

1. To make food for humans to eat
2. To make a trophy out of and display your wicked skills at hunting
3. To get enjoyment out of killing the animal, such as I used to do with ants

None of these are actually comparable with the holocaust.

The nazis were obviously not eating jews, and this is a completely ridiculous and unsupportable claim.

For the longest time, the scale of the holocaust was kept a secret, so obviously another no on this one.

It's hard to argue that the nazi leadership got enjoyment out of killing jews since they didn't do it personally. While your run of the mill ss agent of whatever may be some phsycho bastard who did enjoy it, I doubt a majority of the 8 million nazis actually enjoyed the experience they got from personally killing jews. In fact, some, like Schindler, even tried to help Jews.

And this is all considering animals equal with humans, which again they obviously aren't. In fact, even though there aren't any people killing animals simply because they are inferior, I would argue that this is a perfectly fine thing to do. Why shouldn't you be able to kill members of races that are inferior to you simply on principle?

And just for reference no, I don't believe that jews are inferior to germans, I'm not condoning nazism here.

False equivelancy and obvious straw-man on top of it. Jews are the same as any other human in terms of intelligence, sentience, ability, etc. Meanwhile there's a definable difference between humans and other species by the same measurements.

Ok, then here's an equivalence that is right: killing all retards and their children, in short, extreme eugeny.

I believe in protecting my fellow humans first, if that makes me a Nazi by your twisted definition, that so be it. Hit me with that human supremacist label, because I'll embrace it.

There's nothing too bad about that, and I strongly agree that violence can not be counted on to cancel out more violence, but with your argument you can justify killing retards or those who are lower in brains and knacks.

I wasn't born this high on the food chain to not eat meat.

Why not?

1. To make food for humans to eat
2. To make a trophy out of and display your wicked skills at hunting
3. To get enjoyment out of killing the animal, such as I used to do with ants

None of these are actually comparable with the holocaust.

You're right - it's far more bloodier, far more filthy, and far more of a crime.

And this is all considering animals equal with humans, which again they obviously aren't.

remplace "animals" with "Jews". Nobody, human or not, earns a quick end to their life like that, imagine if that happened to you. You've just as much luck to be born as a dog than to be born as a human, so what if you were born as a dog and experimented on to test drugs and unethic crap like that?

there aren't any people killing animals simply because they are inferior

Folk who think of wildlife as life to be dealed with fairly wouldn't eat their corpses or throw their babies in boiling water, or do other barbaric things since they don't care about them.

Why shouldn't you be able to kill members of races that are inferior to you simply on principle?

Since everybody has a right to live - the grounds why you're not dead. Coming from someone against-abortion, this is odd to hear.

Humans are not animals. Humans are descendants of Adam and Eve peace be upon both of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens

Kingdom: Animalia