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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 19:27:15


knyte
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Alternative, here's another method-

1. Reweight for opponent pool so far:
Get the average (mean) success rate (points won / points contested) against all other clans for each clan, using 50% or a calculation based on overall success rates for clans that have not yet faced each other

2. Reweight for pace of play:
Get the total # of points contested so far, split them evenly between clans, and then multiply by the success rate

You can just rank the clans by the new points. You could also do this without reweighting the success rate and just adjusting for the pace of play so clans that compete faster than others won't be at an advantage.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 22:43:34

Memele 
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I don't want to add new variable, more work to do :P But the success rate againts each clan...I could use it to do a review time to time, when this is more advanced.

By the way, if I understood you right, your nº 2 method is exactly the same as the win rate ^^U
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/25/2016 23:02:27


l4v.r0v 
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It is, that's why I don't use them separately. I already have a sheet that does this, if you're willing to make minor edits and log each game individually.

Success rate also tends to strongly favor or strongly disfavor clans that have played the fewest games, so that's why I make the first adjustment.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 02:32:00

ZhugeLiang
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Feel free to add updates yourself if you think you can better them, no one is stopping you ;)
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 03:52:46


Tac(ky)tical 
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Although it would be cool if you could continually edit the first forum post to contain the scores so I don't have to go to last reply and scroll through to find the latest score every time :)
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 04:41:02


Bonsai 
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I like statistics as much as anyone else, but I think points won, max possible and current record/win rate pretty much explain what you need to know.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 09:13:01


l4v.r0v 
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Not quite. Especially while the season's still progressing, it's also worthwhile to have some idea of strength of schedule. A 7-0 start means different things if 4 of those games were against DARKLORDS or against Apex. You don't need any complex adjustments to account for that either.

It's kind of like basketball or any other professional sport. You can tell a lot of what a player's or team's performance was like based on just a few simple stats like points, points allowed, shooting percentage. But those still miss some key elements, and that's why we also track things like pace, rebounds, assists, +/-, eFG%, ORB vs. DRB, steals, blocks, turnovers and generate aggregated stats like strength of schedule, Offensive and Defensive Rating or even Elo/wackier systems like CARM-ELO. That's all so you can properly extract what you learned from a set of performances in a way that gives you enough insight to really apply it to a set of future performances and also figure out- for example- how bad a loss or loss streak is and how well a team's actually doing at any given moment. In CL, since teams tend to sometimes cluster within +/- 5% of each other for win rates, it's pretty worthwhile to figure out which of these identical-looking win rates indicates a superior performance.

Edited 6/26/2016 09:20:18
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 13:31:07

Memele 
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Update:
ME: kram (stahl) defeated almostricky (Sninja)
french: PJ017 (ONE) defeated wakanarai (Blitz)
T.Map: Markus (101) defeated Min (REGL)

Classification (by points):
   Clan    points   Max points    Wins   Losses   Winrate
1º ONE       24        225         8       5        61.54%
2º VIW       18        228         6       4        60%
3º Blitz     12        234         4       2        66.67%
4º 101       12        231         4       3        57.14%
5º REGL      12        225         4       5        44.44%
6º SNinja    12        222         4       6        40%
7º Stahl      9        216         2       8        27.27%




Classification (max points):
Blitz, 101, VIW, REGL/ONE, SNinja, Stahl

Classification (win rate):
Blitz, ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl


@Tac(ky)tical Ok, I will edit the first post
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 16:15:25


Tac(ky)tical 
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Nice updates :)
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/26/2016 21:34:13

Memele 
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Update:
B.Islands: memele (REGL) defeated Txomin (Sninja). He was booted (but I think I had advantadge), let's hope it's only a game and the boots don't spread.
For now Battle islands is the tournament with more finished games.

Classification (by points):
   Clan    points   Max points    Wins   Losses   Winrate
1º ONE       24        225         8       5        61.54%
2º VIW       18        228         6       4        60%
3º REGL      15        225         5       5        50%
4º Blitz     12        234         4       2        66.67%
5º 101       12        231         4       3        57.14%
6º SNinja    12        219         4       7        36.36%
7º Stahl      9        216         2       8        27.27%




Classification (max points):
Blitz, 101, VIW, REGL/ONE, SNinja, Stahl

Classification (win rate):
Blitz, ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/27/2016 21:02:19

Memele 
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Update:
Greece:
paniagotis (101) defeatd kirby (Sninja)
mifran (ONE) defeated elbee (REGL)

B.Islands:
PJ017 (ONE) defeated kevin (stahl)

French:
Elbee (REGL) defeated kevin (Stahl)
Awesomeguy (VIW) defeated rakleader (SNinja)

Classification (by points):
   Clan    points   Max points    Wins   Losses   Winrate
1º ONE       30        225        10       5        66.67%
2º VIW       21        228         7       4        63.64%
3º REGL      18        222         6       6        50%
4º 101       15        231         5       3        62.50%
5º Blitz     12        234         4       2        66.67%
6º SNinja    12        213         4       9        30.77%
7º Stahl      9        210         2      10        23.08%




Classification (max points):
Blitz, 101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl

Classification (win rate):
Blitz/ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl

Note: This week I will be busy, specially from thursday. Maybe I won't be able to update all the days, but I will try ;)
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/28/2016 20:08:57

Memele 
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Update:
Greece:
Paniagotis (101) defeated Serjtz (Stahl)
Elbee (REGL) defeated Kirby (Sninja)

Now this is the tournament with more finished games.

Classification (by points):
   Clan    points   Max points    Wins   Losses   Winrate
1º ONE       30        225        10       5        66.67%
2º VIW       21        228         7       4        63.64%
3º REGL      21        222         7       6        53.85%
4º 101       18        231         6       3        66.67%
5º Blitz     12        234         4       2        66.67%
6º SNinja    12        210         4      10        28.57%
7º Stahl      9        207         2      11        21.43%




Classification (max points):
Blitz, 101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl

Classification (win rate):
Blitz/ONE/101, VIW, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/28/2016 21:22:40


Beren Erchamion 
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You missed a game that has finished in the 2v2 ME tourney :)
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 6/29/2016 20:42:03

Memele 
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@Beren: I lokked but didnt't saw it o_O Not sure if it finished after it or i looked too fast ^^U

Update:
ME: Almosttricky (Sninja) defeated Dagorin (REGL)
Guiroma: Farragut (stahl) defeated berserk (REGL)
Greece: Awesomeguy (VIW) defeated Mifran (ONE)
T.Map: Min (REGL) defeated mushimushi (Stahl)

2vs2 (I will use clans and not players)
ME: ONE defeated VIW and VIW defeated REGL

Classification (by points):
   Clan    points   Max points    Wins   Losses   Winrate
1º ONE       34        222        11       6        64.71%
2º VIW       28        224         9       5        64.29%
3º REGL      24        212         8       9        47.06%
4º 101       18        231         6       3        66.67%
5º SNinja    15        210         5      10        33.33%
6º Blitz     12        234         4       2        66.67%
7º Stahl     12        204         3      12        25.00%




Classification (max points):
Blitz, 101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl

Classification (win rate):
Blitz/101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 7/1/2016 13:18:41

Memele 
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Updates:
ME:
Awol (VIW) defeated kram (stahl)
kram (stahl) defeated platinum (101)
giantfrog (blitz) defeated awol (VIW)

B.Islands:
MoOoOoOoO (VIW) defeated Txomin (sninja)

French:
Awesomeguy (VIW) defeated both tac(ky)tycal (101) and Kevin (stahl)

Classification (by points):
   Clan    points   Max points    Wins   Losses   Winrate
1º VIW       40        221        13       6        68.42%
2º ONE       34        222        11       6        64.71%
3º REGL      24        212         8       9        47.06%
4º 101       18        225         6       5        54.55%
5º Blitz     15        234         5       2        71.43%
6º SNinja    15        207         5      11        31.25%
7º Stahl     15        198         4      14        26.32%




Classification (max points):
Blitz, 101, ONE, VIW, REGL, SNinja, Stahl

Classification (win rate):
Blitz, VIW, ONE, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 7/1/2016 15:45:38


KKND
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Wow, good start from VIW
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 7/1/2016 15:58:32


master of desaster 
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And blitz
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 7/2/2016 08:01:38


master of desaster 
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Did corp change it's clanpicture?
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 7/2/2016 08:10:12


Norman 
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I saw two boot losses for 101st players. In one (Greece) the game was probably lost and in the other one the position seemed disadvantageous (French Brawl).

About the tournament and looking at the rosters I guess V.I.W. is overperforming currently and Blitz + ONE! should become the two first clans. Blitz has some really great players and as for ONE! imo especially MIFRAN is also a great player and most of the other names also ring a positive bell.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 7/3/2016 15:03:24


MarkusBM
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@MoD
CORP was hijacked recently, and had to create a new clan since there were no members left in the old one. I think Ox might be trolling around with the clan picture at the moment, it changes pretty often it seems.

@Norman
I think the teamgames are generally our strong suit, not necessarily because we have the better players, but because we tend to put in a lot of discussion, so I hope we can catch up to and hopefully surpass the other 3 main contenders once we get into those games.
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