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Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 17:03:08


psykkoman
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Well, consistency in naming is important. I am from Czech republic and I found strange that Prague is named in English and other places in Bohemia and Moravia are attempted to be named in Czech, and mostly wrong. I would recommend to use German names for them, because there were part of Austria at the time and German was official language, some Czech names you yoused even didn't existed at the time, and possibly keep English for bonuses names. In latter case, "March of Moravia" should be "Margraviate of Moravia".
If you want to use names in Czech , I can provide you with names of correct spelling, with necessary acutes and wedges. I think difference between e.g. "Ceske Budejovice" and "České Budějovice" is obvious ;)
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 17:05:38


MrOobling
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You have been very generous with the American colonies. The French didn't directly control so much and many tribes were still independent (remove them from the main French bonus). The Amazon wasn't really colonized at this point either. The African cities are also probably worth too much (although in a 7 years war scenario, the whole non-European controlled part would probably be removed with massive stacks).

Edited 4/3/2016 17:06:58
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 17:12:40

Zahaan Ali
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Nice effort on map.... but as an Indian, the lower right part of the map affronts me :P

I'll take time out this week to help you out on that part of the map... although I must admit, I am a novice when it comes to map making in Warlight

Edited 4/3/2016 17:13:19
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 17:41:08


Жұқтыру
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Great map.

You're badly misusing the Russian provinces - either make them all just geographic sites, not administrative, or put in all the Russian provinces, don't merge. Also, even if you did that, Pskov should probably be in a Russia propre bonus since it is on the east of Peipus.

In this time, province was way more commonly used than governorate in English, so

Governorate -> Province

Also, using most common English names of the time.

Russian Tsardom -> Russian Empire
Cesis -> Tsesis
Pskov -> Pleskov
Pärnu -> Pernau
Saaremaa -> Ezel
Lääne -> Gapsal
Virumaa -> Reval
Kexholm -> Viborg
St. Petersburg -> Saint Petersburg
Azov -> Azoff (by the way, there are two Azovs??)
Salonika -> Salonica
Constantinopel -> Constantinople
Ankara -> Ancyra
Krakow -> Cracow
Podznan -> Poznań
Torun -> Toruń
Gdansk -> Dantiscum
Konigsberg -> Königsberg
Elblag -> Elbing
Lviv -> Leopolis
Casteddu -> Cagliari

I will go on later.

Missing tie:

Hordaland <-> Bergen

Edited 4/3/2016 23:31:43
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 21:39:39


Zephyrum
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You have been very generous with the American colonies. The French didn't directly control so much and many tribes were still independent (remove them from the main French bonus). The Amazon wasn't really colonized at this point either.


Agreed on the french part, but then again, the amazon isn't too rich in the map either. It's pretty much a couple big worthless provinces.

Vilnius -> Lviv


wot
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 21:42:20


Жұқтыру
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Whoops
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 21:50:22


Riveath
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Gdansk -> Dantiscum


I beg you pardon?
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 22:07:51


Ox
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SCOOOTLAND (ALL SCOTTISH TERRITORIES IN SCOTS DIALECT) (THE MISSING LETTERS ARE GLOT-STOPS / UNPRONOUNCED Gs/Hs & REALLY IMPORTANT)

(pls love me)

Caithness and Sutherland -> Caithness and Suth'rlan'
Western Isles -> Western Islains
Argyll and Bute -> Argyll and Bu'e
Glasgow -> Glesga (also known as Glesca at west, and Glesgae in east, but Glesga is used in both coasts)
Edinburgh -> Embra
Perth and Kinross -> Scone and Kinross
Fife, Stirling and Falkirk -> Fife, Stirlin' and Falkirk
Dunbartonshire, Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire -> Dunbar'onshire, Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire
Wigtown and Kirkcudbright -> Wigtoon and Kirkcudbrigh'

SCOOOOOOOTTTLLAAAAANNDD
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 22:24:16


Жұқтыру
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Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 22:28:56


Angry Koala
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Lol Ox I'm not sure your suggestion would be implemented :P
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/3/2016 22:47:07


AlternateHistoryGuy
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I'd love to test this.
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/4/2016 00:24:00


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Reminds me of the War of the Spanish Succession map.
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/4/2016 04:56:00


Riveath
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Dantiscum was the most used English name for the time.


Which is what leads me to asking the question.

Murk, do you intend on using native city names whenever you can, using modern English names when available OR using English names used at the time, like Juq suggested? There are many possible ways of naming them and it's best to use one consistent method, imo.
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/7/2016 10:30:31


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Although the map is very nice, the borders can be a little less choppy.

Also, France didn't technically control Indian land. I think it would be wise to make those Indian tribes independent from France's colony.

Also, even though you're cramped for space, it feels odd to see an empire as powerful as Russia have not very many territories. They were a participant in this war as well.
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/7/2016 15:06:31


҈ * TeeMee123҈ *
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Amazing! Looks like one of zxctycxz's maps.
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/9/2016 05:03:38


chuck norris
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it looks like a fun map to play but its a bit ugly
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/9/2016 09:32:50


Murk 
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Hello all. I had to leave for a while, suddenly, so sorry for the slow response.
I'll try to give you all some attention :)

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Most importantly: consistent naming.
Murk, do you intend on using native city names whenever you can, using modern English names when available OR using English names used at the time, like Juq suggested?

For some reason, this was something I thought "I'll do it later" of, and then didn't. Now it's a mess, so thanks for all your suggestions.
If possible, I'd like to stick to historical, regional names, but for readability for most warlight players, in latin alphabet. So all suggestions/improvements for local names are welcome. I'll make that first priority today.

South America
*State of Brasil vs State of Grão-Pará and Maranhão?
This division never existed. Might make them both united on one superbonus.

On all other of your suggestions, I'll take your word for it. This distinction, however, showed up often. I believe it was a short-lived distinction, but was made nonetheless. Is that a wellspread myth or something?
Assuming your goal is historical accuracy and not balancement (hinted by the standalone bonuses that are cities), the value of the cities seems off in every way.

True. It was a mix-up between accuracy/balance/ignorance here and there. I want to make it historically accurate for now (so follow your suggestions), but it might be necessary to change it later for balances sake.

Non-European
You have been very generous with the American colonies. The French didn't directly control so much and many tribes were still independent (remove them from the main French bonus). The Amazon wasn't really colonized at this point either. The African cities are also probably worth too much (although in a 7 years war scenario, the whole non-European controlled part would probably be removed with massive stacks).

Also, France didn't technically control Indian land. I think it would be wise to make those Indian tribes independent from France's colony.

This is all very true, and I should make it more clear that the "New France" bonus (as well as Prince Rupert's Land) is Nominal control - it is also why I tried to give the tribes their own bonuses and names. From a European perspective, at that point, the land was French, though it wasn't, of course.
I would say that in a slotted game, only the cities and forts are actually French, but for the map as a whole I wanted to show the French claims (and give North America a superbonus, too).
Would it help to give the native territories bonus colours other than blue, or would that become too sloppy?

The same goes for the amazon - it isn't really worth much in this map, but I think it's strategic value is still too big (you can pretty much attack all of South America from there). I wanted to prevent black spots, though. Suggestions welcome.

For Africa, yes, I assume that if you have a slotted scenario, Africa would either be neutral or very much decreased in value. I didn't want to give the impression that the world ended at Europes borders, though - which is something that happens a lot. The nations around the colonies might not be as strong as Europe, but they are very much there, and that means making them a valid starting position for FFA games.

India
Nice effort on map.... but as an Indian, the lower right part of the map affronts me :P
I'll take time out this week to help you out on that part of the map... although I must admit, I am a novice when it comes to map making in Warlight

Gladly. Especially the Carnatic region might hold plenty of mistakes. It was hard to find which nawabs were independent, which weren't. Sometimes, the Carnatic is referred to as a kingdom of its own, other times it's only shown as "European influence", sometimes as a mess of independent fiefs. Feedback from someone who knows the history more intimately would be welcome.

Russia
You're badly misusing the Russian provinces - either make them all just geographic sites, not administrative, or put in all the Russian provinces, don't merge.

I always prefer administrative to geographic. I also like the fact that Russia doesn't have to many territories, to prevent it from overpowering Europe (as often happens in maps like these). So, I'm cautious with wanting to add all provinces - I do want to do Russian history justice, of course, so do you have any intermediate suggestions? :)

Scotland
SCOOOTLAND (ALL SCOTTISH TERRITORIES IN SCOTS DIALECT) (THE MISSING LETTERS ARE GLOT-STOPS / UNPRONOUNCED Gs/Hs & REALLY IMPORTANT)

This... This requires some consideration. It is latin alphabet, and it might be accurate, but... Well. It seems unfair to all the other countries that do not get their own local quirks in the names. Let me think about it.

Other
Reminds me of the War of the Spanish Succession map.

Only a 50 years difference, so, yeah, it's a bit bigger, but most countries have about the same shape. Especially the silly lines between the colonies are similar. Something I want to work on.
Although the map is very nice, the borders can be a little less choppy.

it looks like a fun map to play but its a bit ugly

Yup. I didn't want to improve aesthetics when there's a good chance I'll have to do borders over, yet. Would be redundant work. Once I think all the historical borders are OK, I'll start cleaning them up.

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Alright. I'll start working on name consistency (something that really is long overdue). Might take a day or two to get it all in line. Suggestions still welcome. Thanks for the help so far, everyone!
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/9/2016 13:01:33


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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I think splitting some of the Russian territories up.
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/9/2016 13:14:48


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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And Silesia.
Seven Years War map - historical feedback needed: 4/9/2016 14:32:55


Stewie
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and Ottoman Empire, especially when I see Rumelia Eyalet bonus with 9 territories on 15 income that is completeable in 2 turns.
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