"You nitpick out of my analogy, but fail to answer the question: Why should Palestinians be subject to inferior rights than Israelis? Is that fair?"
STFU. You people are so uneducated. Arabs have every right Jews do. Everytime Israel gives Palestinians something, they shoot rockets at them. Once they have proven they can have automomy without following Hamas and shooting rockets at Israel, they can have full independence. Also, Clement, what were you thinking choosing Palestine? You have to have known the controversy it would engender.

EDIT: I do not believe Palestine should be recognized

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It's sad when you realize a white, supremacist, Racist is supporting you XD

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Agreed Reborn, it would be the Pakistani-Indian Two state race all over again

GeneralPE, actually you are the uneducated person here.

In fact, you're so uneducated that you can't read.

You can't read, that this country was randomly selected.

About rights. It's clear that Palestinians don't have the same rights Israelis do. Their territory is largely occupied, and Israel are breaking international law. Palestinians are subject to Israeli curfews, and there are several reports of Israeli soldiers abusing Palestinian citizens, for no other reason than "they are Palestinian, and I was occupying their territory".

So, to throw those words back into your mature mouth "STFU".

totally agree with Ox, it is no secret that Israel is not respecting international treaties, colonizing and invading foreign and sovereign lands are breaking International law.

On the other hand I understand Israel defending itself against extremists, the situation is so catastrophic in some Palestinian zones (like Gaza) that misery generates hatred and extremist acts. Palestinians arent the only guilty ones, Israel and its allies are the main responsible of the current situation, not only in Palestine but the whole Middle East (see Syria/Iraq).

"totally agree with Ox, it is no secret that Israel is not respecting international treaties, colonizing and invading foreign and sovereign lands are breaking International law." They are't doing anything you said. The lands aren't sovereign, and even if they were, they simply suppress terrorism. They aren't actively colonizing in any way. Furthermore, you hate on Israel for "breaking internaitonal law" while I doubt you think Iran should be punished for breaking the Geneva Convention this week.

As a side note, I believe international law is a terrible idea. It does nothing but empower tyrannical regimes and radicals.

"Israel and its allies are the main responsible of the current situation, not only in Palestine but the whole Middle East (see Syria/Iraq)."
How? Everything you say is wrong. Israel has no opression, it is the most liberal nation in the Middle East. The situation has nothing to do with Israel and the West's imperialsim and evil, and everything to do with Muslim extremism and violence and intolerance. Muslim nations treat Non-Muslims as second-class citizens, but there is no outrage over that. The only reason is that Christians don't F*CKING blow themselves up and launch knife assaults on innocent civilians. This is simply Muslims carrying on Mohammed's work of conquering the globe through jihad. Blaming Israel for ISIS and Islamic extremism and intolerance, when it existed in 622 when Mohammed founded Islam is naive, wrong, and dangerous to Western civilization.

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I'm not even reading the shit you say Karl.

General, don't make assumptions. They are weak. Who knows what he thinks of Iran? You certainly don't.

Don't try and defend Israel's human rights abuses. They are enforcing curfews. They clearly oppress them a lot. They are not suppressing terrorism. They are provoking it. They are committing it. They are clearly colonising. Look at this.



You can find several versions of that just about anywhere. This isn't selective. If that isn't colonising, tell me what is.

it is the most liberal nation in the Middle East.

LOL. CONGRATS ON BEING MORE LIBERAL THAN SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN.

and everything to do with Muslim extremism and violence and intolerance.

Not true in the slightest. You can't lie about Israel's clear oppression of Palestinian citizens.

Islam is naive, wrong, and dangerous to Western civilization.

Now this is simply offensive, bigoted, thoughtless and rude.

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Ox, koala, I'm sure if Palestine would stop firing Rockets Israel that would help also XD. plus you do realise that all electricity, Water, food, clothing, Education, is provided by Israel? Right? Muslims countries protest treatment of Palestinians yet Jordan and Iraq won't even let them enter there countries much less actually help Israel supply them. Even is Palestine became a sovereign state it would declare war on Israel the day after

Historically, the land originally belonged to the tribes of Cainan and they were either killed or integrated into the Jewish tribes so technically it is Jewish land since the living descendants of those original tribes are now Jewish

You're assuming. How do you know it would declare war on Israel the day after? They want independence. When they get it, they'll be satisfied.

Palestinians are firing rockets strategically, but Israelis abuse regular Palestinian citizens. For me, the latter is worse.

Palestine would be able to function without Israel. ESPECIALLY with its land back.

It's really sad to see the Israeli Jews, of all people, putting people in ghettos. It's so sad when the abused becomes the abuser.

What you say about history - WHO CARES?

I don't give a DAMN if Israel used to own the land. Look what Austria used to own!



Are you saying Austria should be given all this land back? NO! History doesn't MATTER for current borders.

Ok, they only have curfews and the lot because without them their civilians would be massacred. It isn't Israel's fault they have to take action to prevent people from randomly stabbing someone just because they have a little hat. Your site shows Israeli land expansion, but most of that is due to Arab-provoked wars which Israel won. Also, if we count voluntary civilain movement into lands as colonization, why isn't the Muslim migration to Europe counted as colonization? Furthermore, the Palestinians are only there because their forefathers conquered it in the name of Islam. While I don't think we should blame them for that, we could at least realise the Jews were there first. After everything Jews have gone through, historically and especially the Holocaust, they deserve something. Giving them their country back seems like a small price to pay for 6 million dead. They lost about 1/3 of their people. If 400 millions Muslims died, I'd give them Palestine.

Ox, that map is extremely inaccurate

you do realise that all electricity, Water, food, clothing, Education, is provided by Israel?

Gosh, such a lie.

Tell me then why Israel is blockading Palestinian lands, and illegally stopping any humanitarian aid?

Anything isn't white or black, Israel and Palestine are both equally responsible of the current situation, the fact that you blindly defend Israel without even seeing the wrongdoings against the Palestinians show how much biased you are in your own opinions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

If 400 millions Muslims died, I'd give them Palestine.

You can't do shit about who gets what.

"Islam is naive, wrong, and dangerous to Western civilization." Whoah. I said "Blaming Israel for ISIS and Islamic extremism and intolerance, when it existed in 622 when Mohammed founded Islam is naive, wrong, and dangerous to Western civilization. " I suppose there should be a comma after Islam, but I was saying "Blaming Israel" is naive, wrong and dangerous. YOu took that entirely out of context. Please apologize or at least edit your post.

"Palestinians are firing rockets strategically, but Israelis abuse regular Palestinian citizens. For me, the latter is worse."
1). So it's okay if they kill innocents strageically?
2). THEY DON'T FUCKING OPRESS THEM!! THEY TAKE PRECAUTIONS TO AVOId TERROR ATTACKS INITIATED BY PALESTINIANS! THERE ARE ARABS IN PARLIAMENT!!!

"CONGRATS ON BEING MORE LIBERAL THAN SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN."
*more liberal then every majority Muslim nation on Earth.

"Tell me then why Israel is blockading Palestinian lands, and illegally stopping any humanitarian aid?"
Because much of that aid is going to terrorists and terrorist supporters shooting fucking rockets at civilians. You do realize they used money for nation-building to construct tunnels for extremists, right?