Palestine has been a fat pain in the ass but they deserve there own nation. the problem is every time Israel gives them more breathing room they are rewarded with rockets hitting there homes and little children walking into there towns from Palestine with bombs on there backs

Palestine is mostly a puppet of Hamas and other terrorist groups, they don't deserve recognition.

^ Very simplistic and subjective opinion again.

Lol, that's a lie. Israel has never given them more breathing room. They just occupy more, more, more land, and illegally build on it.

well, he's got a point. The majority of Palestine openly support Hamas and other terrorist groups. The day of 9/11 I'm sure they dancing in the streets just like in Iran.

No, Israel has given them more autonomy over the years. Ox I'm talking about The West Bank Not Gaza

Israel should not be illegally occupying that land, I agree but yourself in there shoes. They have a growing population, growing industry complex, and are just basically growing all around. The only place they can expand is The West Bank. There thinking " they want us to burn in eternal hellfire anyways " and quite frankly if I was in there situation I might be doing the same thing, I just wound have made a valid excuse before going in

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Oh crap it's Asm Alt

No he's reporting you for being an ignorant and irrationally-hating idiot.

Oh wait! It is Asm

Imagine you're a 3 year old with a set of building blocks (not too hard to imagine tbh). You have 50 of them, but there is a drooling 4 year old next to you. The drooling, bigger, 4 year old starts slowly taking your building blocks away. By the time half an hour passes (if the patience upholds), you have 30 building blocks left, because the drooling 4 year old keeps taking them for himself. Naturally, you're going to do something to that person who keeps stealing from you, right?

Nobody cares if Israel gives Palestine "more autonomy". They want Israel to give Palestine independence. If that doesn't happen, then I feel no sympathy for Israel.

Lol unfortunately if Israel gave Palestinian independence,the Palestinians would literally celebrate by bombing Tel-Aviv XD. Honestly? There things wrong in that picture. 1 why doesn't it Matter if the big kid ( presumably Israel ) is drooling? Your purposefully trying to make Jews look idiotic which in fact is racist something which your supposedly against. 2 your comparing blocks to the survival of two nations?. 3 Palestine is by no means innocent. People think if Israel gave Palestinian independence all the bombing would end. They don't understand that this isn't about independence, it's about the fact that Palestinian Muslims and Jews will always continue to kill each other until one of them is wiped off the map. And you forgot the must important part of your picture! After the Israeli big bully steals the blocks from the poor little innocent Palestinian.....the Palestinian jumps up, laps the other boys head off and then goes and murders the kids family in his sleep :)

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You nitpick out of my analogy, but fail to answer the question: Why should Palestinians be subject to inferior rights than Israelis? Is that fair?

No absolutely not. But If England was firing Rockets At your hometown how would you feel? I don't think your first impulse would be to go to the UN and request a formal condemnation. No, you would wanna go and beat the shit out of the queen XD. and sorry if I sounded a bit like koala in my criticism XD

Yes I know that but Ox is Scottish so I was using an example near to his heart

Oh my gosh every time I talk to you I wanna pull my hair out. It's an alternative scenario do it doesn't matter who owns who. Point is,if his country was attacked he wouldn't impulsively go to the peaceful solution

Clement, tbe map is outdated.
UK recognized Palestine in 2014.

We don't currently, but in my opinion we should. However, there was a successful vote on a motion to recognise Palestine in the House of Commons in 2014, which I think is what you're referring to. It stated:

This House believes that the government should recognise the state of Palestine alongside the state of Israel as a contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution.

However, since this was a motion and not a bill, this was completely symbolic and had no impact on official recognition.

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France also recognized Palestine in 2014, pretty outdated indeed.

After a bit of research, it sounds like French politicians decided a non-binding vote in favour of recognising Palestine, but it wasn't official recognition. However, I don't fully understand how the French government works.

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the national assembly and the senate voted for a recognition in late 2014 (if i recall it well) so yes it is a recognition from France basically, nothing else to understand beyond this.

I don't understand why people think the 2-state solution will work.

Both countries would be split up. It would be chaos as people from each side try to get to the other.