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Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 17:16:38


OnlyThePie
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From the TV show, "Newsroom", when the character is asked about America being the greatest country in the world:
"It's not the greatest country in the world. There's absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd median household income, number 4 in labor force and number 4 in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies. Now, none of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college studen, but you, nonetheless, are, without a doubt, a member of the worst, period, generation, period, ever, period. So when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about! Yousemite?!

It sure used to be... We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reason. We passed laws, we struct down laws, for moral reason. We waged wars on poverty, not on poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great, big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and we cultivated the world's greatest artists AND the world's greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence, we didn't belittle it. It didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn't scare so easy. We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed... by great men, men who were revered.The First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one. America is not the greatest country in the world anymore."

I can't sum it up any better. We're fucked. This mess in France is only proof that things are getting worse. Some day soon, there are going to be foreign troops in places we don't want them, and the west isn't going to be able to do shit. America, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, the Western World you need to open your eyes. The world is going down the drain, and we can't let that happen. And the most frustrating part is that the average citizen can't do bull shit about it. This needs to change, and it needs to change now.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 17:25:27


Nogals 
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America may be in a bad place but we are currently in THE MOST PEACEFUL TIME IN HISTORY. Yes shit happens like what happened in Paris yesterday but the fact is that more people are above the poverty line than they ever were, there are less wars than there's ever been, literacy is at an all time high globally, substance abuse as a whole as decreased with exception of cannabis.

The only difference is we are more exposed to the news. Ghenis touched a nerve on the other tread when he said he didn't feel sad about the events that took place and that is how most people felt back in the day. We are more connected now to each other, this as pros as well as obvious cons.

Edited 11/14/2015 17:25:52
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 17:30:00


Genghis 
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Yeah i know where you pulled this from, OTP. Moving stuff.

Most peaceful time is Pax Romana.

The more connected the less connected to ourselves.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 17:32:09


OxTheAutist 
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Are we in the worst generation ever? I think the lost generations of the men that fought in the two world wars was worse.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 17:40:29


xXOmegaXx
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Well I don't think that generation was as stupid as today's mouth-breathers.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 17:46:04


OxTheAutist 
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Agreed, but I'd rather live in this generation than that one, because I'm safer now than then.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 17:59:45


Zephyrum 
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Literally every generation tends to claim to be on the worst one and declare past ones were better. This is due to an effect of nostalgia on older people that passes through generations through conversations and talking, modified slightly with the newer person's opinion and output, only so it's concept of "last generation" becomes sort of utopic, and then the same happens between this younger person and his sons.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 18:13:22


OxTheAutist 
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Well, I don't think the generation after the one that got affected by the Bubonic Plague were saying "Wow! You guys had it so much better than us!"
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 18:24:45


Cata Cauda
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Well, shit happens everyday. People starve in Africa, they have wars there, we made and we are just like "Not my problem". Even worse, we use the instable situation to gain advantages from it and become even richer. Not gonna start with human rights here...
But dont forget that it can be worse for you. Be grateful for what you have and dont complain about "first-world-problems".
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 18:37:26

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I'd say we are doing OK with the hands we were dealt (I'm speaking for us millennials)> I mean we already had a bad ecosystem that was left behind by the baby boomers, the constant use of anti bio-tics by both of the previous generations, and the world wasn't very stable to begin with. I'd say we're the worst generation not by our own choice, but by circumstance.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 18:37:54


OnlyThePie
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@Cata: Global Terrorism is a "first world problem"? The inefficiency of the only current global superpower's government is a "first world problem"? Consistent threatened and destablized regions across Afro-Eurasia are "first world problems"?
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 18:47:13


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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I don't know why everyone's crying now that America has realised it needs to stop trying to be the world's police. Britain was way better. It's time to go back to the time when Britannia truly ruled.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 18:48:21

Neo-canada
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Better go get my opium
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 19:20:27


AlternateHistoryGuy
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Honestly, I've known that America (and the Western World) have been going downhill. But even if I became president today, I couldn't do a thing. America is so divided in it's own beliefs that I would be useless.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 19:22:13


Cata Cauda
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Guys lets make a difference between America and the US please. Canada is not the same as the US.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 19:35:31


Hostile
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South America is part of the US. US is petrol hungry.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 19:52:08


OnlyThePie
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Hell, I'm Canadian. But with American parentage, you better believe I'm pissed. America is a fine enough term for the united states, we all know what is meant.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 22:12:03


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Most Muslims are okay people, but haven't you noticed that wherever Islam goes, terrorism follows? Muslims allow radicals to control their religion and use it as an excuse for seizing political power through violence. No other religion is like that. When you have thousands of terrorists using a faith to justify their activity, that faith becomes toxic. Objectively looking at what Islam is doing for Europe, it's all terrible. The good ones never make headlines. Islam has no place in Europe or other non-Muslim countries.

"Islamic immigration" is actually colonization. Muslims moving to European countries, conducting terrorism and massively outproducing Europeans, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES is COLONIZATION! There are cities in European countries where EUROPEANS ARE NOT ALLOWED! IN THEIR OWN HOMES!

That's my god damn response to this Paris issue.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 22:53:05


Vormulak
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most muslims are extremists you twat.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 22:56:46


Belgian Gentleman 
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Please ban him ^^
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 23:49:19


Genghis 
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Belgian why are you not allowing him to speak? He may be uninformed, unintelligent or underage, but his voice is one that is allowed. This is not a fascism.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/14/2015 23:53:10


Zephyrum 
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Guys lets make a difference between America and the US please. Canada is not the same as the US.


No point in that. Speaking as a south american, the correct term to call the USA is actually America indeed.

It's the name. "United States of AMERICA". We shorten it to America.
Just like "Federal Republic of Brazil" is shortened to Brazil.
Or "People's Republic of China" is shortened to China.

I'm pretty sure no one refers to China as PRC or Brazil as FRB.

It's not wrong to call the USA "America" unless, for some reason, the context doesn't allow you to figure out which of them is the subject.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 00:10:16


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Yeah, in terms of lifestyle/personal happiness we're certainly falling behind. But we are still the most powerful country in the world. Whether that makes us the best or the worst is a matter of opinion. Either way, with advancing weapons capabilities such as drones and guided missiles, a soldier based army is becoming increasingly obsolete. With Russia and China competing for power, our place as the #1 isn't likely to last much longer.

Also, the ideological beliefs of Islam lend themselves towards sexism and repression, as with most major religions. ISIS and the terrorist regime is in line with most of their core beliefs. The Islamic community need to rewrite many of their core doctrines and behaviors if they want to remain a viable ideology in the modern world.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 00:43:23


Vormulak
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oh but belgian is a fascist genghis.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 01:55:38


Жұқтыру
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It sure used to be... We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reason. We passed laws, we struct down laws, for moral reason. We waged wars on poverty, not on poor people.


Few countries do this since the 1930s, America is not one of them. Your whole speech sounds like Adolf Hitler speaking. We must resurrect Germany, we must fight for freedom of the German folk!

Literally every generation tends to claim to be on the worst one and declare past ones were better. This is due to an effect of nostalgia on older people that passes through generations through conversations and talking, modified slightly with the newer person's opinion and output, only so it's concept of "last generation" becomes sort of utopic, and then the same happens between this younger person and his sons.


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I don't know why everyone's crying now that America has realised it needs to stop trying to be the world's police. Britain was way better. It's time to go back to the time when Britannia truly ruled.


America nor Britain nor any country has even been world's police. They have been world's bullies, but never police. Britain far worse, at least America didn't mow Africa and Ireland of all Africans and Irish.

Guys lets make a difference between America and the US please. Canada is not the same as the US.


No. America is a continent and a country, deal with it. We don't need to use the official names all the times, The Chinese Folk Republic, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and (north) Ireland, just say China, Russia, Britain, and America.

No point in that. Speaking as a south american, the correct term to call the USA is actually America indeed.

It's the name. "United States of AMERICA". We shorten it to America.
Just like "Federal Republic of Brazil" is shortened to Brazil.
Or "People's Republic of China" is shortened to China.

I'm pretty sure no one refers to China as PRC or Brazil as FRB.

It's not wrong to call the USA "America" unless, for some reason, the context doesn't allow you to figure out which of them is the subject.


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But we are still the most powerful country in the world.


Even if it was true, so what? That's nothing to be proud of, that's something to fear, and be ashamed of.

With Russia and China competing for power, our place as the #1 isn't likely to last much longer.


Russia is far behind America, while China is far ahead. Russia is much weaker than Americans make it out to be.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 02:09:34


Cata Cauda
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There IS a difference between America and the US. Same as the EU doesnt contain all countries in Europe, but only the majority.
The Continent is called after the Italian discoverer Amerigo Vespucci, whereas the name United States of America comes from some british blokes who tried to be important.
The states are united, not the continent.

Edited 11/15/2015 02:13:42
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 02:11:11


Vormulak
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the USA is the only relevant american nation.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 02:15:00


Жұқтыру
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There IS a difference between America and the US. Same as the EU doesnt contain all countries in Europe, but only the majority.


No there is NOT, depending on meaning of America, see Zephyr's full post. As for EU, it's also often called "Europe", but this is not in heavy usage yet, but Europe more and more by British and French media means everything west of Warsaw Pact/SSRU.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 02:18:26


Cata Cauda
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"America" is a continent and the USA is a bond of states who are "united". Deal with the difference.
Ready to be a crap Generation?: 11/15/2015 02:25:47


Vormulak
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all of america except the USA is irrelevant deal with it
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